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John T

11-18-2005 06:38:25




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Over on another board (sorry Kim) a poster commented on a new Country Music Video which showed a combine in a field, to which another poster asked, what was a combine doing in a field of green corn lol. It caused me to rant n rave a lil and I couldnt resist posting it here also.

I always get a kick out of phonys and the Hollwood or Yuppie (including many new age so called "Country" performers) crowds who want to pretend to be country folk at various occassions.

For example, one can easily spot the Realtors or Politicians at our local county fair, they are the ones that show up wearing "brand new" denims or have a piece of straw in their mouth. You ever see those pickup truck commercials where someone is ALWAYS throwing a few bales of hay or straw into the back lol. Or the Yuppie who drives into the local Co Op in his brand new Diesel Dually $50, 000 truck to get a bale of straw for his kids dog house and he has towells or blankets in the bed so he dont scratch his shiny new truck. Rememebr when regular folk or middle class or low income persons went on Trail Rides?? When you go to the local State Park horse camp nowadays, they wont let you in the gate UNLESS you have a Diesel Dually all wheel drive truck and about a $30,000 aluminum horse trailer. If a local young redneck showed up in a rusty old Ford and a 2 horse bumper hitch trailer the rich snobs would insist he be thrown out lol. Remember when we as kids got a cane pole, dug our own worms and went fishing?? Nowadays its the Diesel Dually truck pulling a $30,000 Ranger Bass Boat and a tackle box packed with expensive lures ya gotta have to fish.

Oh well, thats progress I reckon, I just never had to pay for those things to have fun or feel good about myself or impress the neighbors I guess. HOWEVER its good for the economy cuz if people were like me the Country would surely go broke.

Ol John T (Old fashioned conservative fuddy duddy)

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Baelee05

11-19-2005 08:01:12




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:38:25  
Gee whiz. Lightnen up a little. You sound like someone who can't afford a diesel pickup and has a hard on for anyone that can. I can't afford one and don't drive one. I don't care if people around me at the Coop or trail ride drive one though. If they have the money for toys,so be it. One thing to keep in mind. A lot of those folks with the fancy trucks and trailers that you curse probably owe a ton of money on them as well. They are probably a lot more in debt than you or I. These rich folks that do have the money for this stuff also contribute a lot of sales tax and property tax revenue to their communities. Don't be so jealous. Live your life and don't worry about them. By the way I see plenty of older trucks and trailers at trail rides around here. Change isn't always bad. We can't live in the past forever and pretend that things aren't different than they were in the days of Andy Griffith. They are different. We may as well get over it and accept it. Life goes on.

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WPTerry

11-19-2005 04:40:58




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:38:25  
John T.,

They say "imitation is the sincerest
form of flattery". WPT



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farmallbee

11-19-2005 03:16:39




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:38:25  
you mean people like kenny chesney. Was leaving the state fair where he was the headliner-never saw so many yuppie girls in cowboy hats, jeans and tank tops-wonder how mant ever got a blister working on a fence?-ALL ABOUT MARKETING



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Rexy

11-18-2005 20:41:07




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:38:25  
I knew a feller who went to Las Vegas on a $65,000 limosine and came back on a $100,000.00 bus!



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Robbe 6

11-18-2005 18:54:58




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:38:25  
Aw Geez, Now I'm never gonna buy a Diesel Dually, no matter what!



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Hugh MacKay

11-19-2005 00:41:36




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Robbe 6, 11-18-2005 18:54:58  
Robbe: Here is the problem as I see it with the diesel dually. First off the driveline ratios being installed in pickups and duallys are not very efficient. As run about hauling no load, driving, they should be giving 40 mpg. They will not do that.

You can actually buy a full size International or Freightliner with 20" wheels, 15,500# rear and 6,000# front axle, 5 speed transmission and one of the many inline 6 cylinder diesels, for less money than the dually. For only a few more dollars than the diesel dually you can actually buy a truck with 18,500# rear, 6,000# front, 20"wheels, air brakes, 10 speed and DT 466. These heavy trucks will give you a far more efficient hauler.

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Quebec Red

11-19-2005 08:46:20




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-18-2005 16:38:11  
Now Hugh, do not have your friend put ALL the Crown Vic drivers in the same bag. That is all I have driven since I went from F100s/150s 20 some years ago, and they are made near your extended backyard. Now that gas is ONLY .83 CDN a litre they are almost free to drive!! However said, they are excellent cars (as are Buicks) for those of us who appreciate the highway. QR



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Hugh MacKay

11-19-2005 13:26:23




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Quebec Red, 11-19-2005 08:46:20  
Red: Don't take me wrong, I really have no problem with the Crown Vic. I could live with one of those buggies, just about as easy as I tolerate the Buick. For that matter just about any of our well built full size North American automobiles. One that is catching my eye just lately is that Chrysler 300, man that's some buggy.

Problem I have with the auto industry is pricing, leasing versus owning. If you check out the lease price, then you know very well investors in the auto industry are still wanting double digit return on their investment. Then look at the total lease payments for the proposed term, plus the residual value at end of term. Having said that a cash sale price for the particular auto should be about 50% of list price. You try for anywhere near that at any auto dealer and they will show you the door. 30 years ago cash talked, not anymore.

Now the way I look at these full size diesel pickups. 75% of the folks that have them, do 90% of driving them with less than a half ton on board. I used to pull trailers on the farm with my 3/4 ton pickups, busted a lot of truck, got many a thrill from overloads and lack of brakes. Then I bought a used single axle highway tractor with air brakes to haul those pickup overloads. My total cost of operation on trucks actually went down. Today the heaviest thing I haul is my SA or 130. I would like to buy a 3/4 ton diesel pickup with an inline 6 geared to turn about 1650 rpm at 100 KPH or 60 MPH. No reason why such a vehicle shouldn't hit 40 miles per IMP gallon. A friend of mine did it 20 years ago with new 1 ton Chevy dually, specifically ordered rear end, 5 speed standard and a Deere 404 cubic inch diesel from a 4000 Deere tractor. The problem he said was without mass production the investment he had in engine, transmission and rear end, Chevy would have to build that cab and chassis for 30 years as he would need 3 of them to get his money back. That was in 1985, and you know how long GM continued that cab and chassis.

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Paul Shuler

11-18-2005 16:19:54




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:38:25  
I think why you see so many farmer wantabes "me included" is after a many years of climbing the ladder just to have your job sent out of country or the high stress middle managment job with a phone stuck in your ear 10 hours a day some of us long for the life our grandparents had. But we don't have the guts, strength or know how to do it for a living. I can spend a few grand to have an H and drive it around like a lawn mower with my Wal Mart farmer look a like hat on or I could spend thousands on a therapist. I know I look stupid,my wife tells me so. But it feels so good to play make belive at age 43. Oh I'm still driving an 86 chevy POS cause I can't afford a dually.

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Georgia Boy

11-18-2005 16:16:22




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:38:25  
I guess it works both ways. I grew up on a large farm and learned absolutely nothing about farming. My father used us kids as slave labor, just hold the sack open and let the grain fall in it. I never learned when you had to combine the oats, how to drive a tractor or how to work on a motor. Now I'm a school teacher and am learning all of that by reading books. I just rebuilt a 1946 Farmall A, by reading a book.

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Cityboy-McCoy

11-18-2005 10:26:19




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:38:25  
Gee - I"ve got a diesel dually and did not even know something was wrong with me until now. Thanks (I think).
mike



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Old Fashioned?

11-18-2005 10:57:34




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Cityboy-McCoy, 11-18-2005 10:26:19  
I been noticing a lot of old fashioned country boys playin around on them new fangled yuppie computers :)



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Cityboy-McCoy

11-18-2005 11:23:15




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Old Fashioned?, 11-18-2005 10:57:34  
Yes, I see where you are coming from. Meanwhile, I've got to go sell my 5-year old diesel dually that I bought second hand last year. Guess I'll gas-axe the back half off an old ford station wagon body to make a pick-up out of it so that no one will dislike me. :)



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Buzzman72

11-18-2005 08:35:22




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:38:25  
Yup...everything you said is true. About the trail ridin", I remember when I was a kid there was a fellow who had an old tall Ford van, I guess what you"d call a bread truck. On the weekends, he"d put a horse in the back of the van, hitch up a rickety ol" bumper-pull trailer, and take the family on trail rides with the local saddle club. During the week, the van was the service vehicle for his TV repair service.

I reckon the yuppie crowd would probably drop their glasses of chablis if they saw the old "Gee Vee TV" van coming their way these days.

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Tim...Ok

11-18-2005 12:17:49




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Buzzman72, 11-18-2005 08:35:22  
My father in law used to cowboy for a livin,not the rodeo crap,but cowboy'n.. his horse had been trained to load himself on the flatbed on the back of the ol ford truck..only fell off once he said,after that old horse always stood in the 5 point stance.. wonder how that would go over at the clubhouse today?? LOL

the same horse was put on a pooltable at the local drinking establishment to win a $5 bet..hehe

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matt baker

11-18-2005 16:45:26




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Tim...Ok, 11-18-2005 12:17:49  
my father taught me how to live off the land. not off the pavement. this computer was the worst investment i ever made



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