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David in UT

10-31-2005 06:23:32




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Sunday afternoon...time to drill out that broken manifold stud. Shouldn't be a big deal, right? 1. file down the top of the stud, center punch it, start drilling with the left-hand bits
2. drill down about 1/4 inch, insert extractor tool...won't budge...hmmm...gotta keep going.
3. drill down some more, repeat step 2 about 10 times.
4. break through back of broken stud, now the anti-freeze it shooting out all over the place.
5. get a bucket, let it drain, try one more time with the screw extractor, still no go.
6. give up on the extractor tool, get a punch and a pick and start picking out the threads the hard way.
7. get about half way down, decide to try the extractor one more time.
8. too much torque, bang, break the extractor off in the hole...dang-git.
9. spend an hour trying to drill through the extractor steel...dull several drill bits in the process.
10. give up, decide the only way I'll get it out is with a drill press...now gotta get the head to the drill press
11. get a bunch more tools carried out to the backyard, remove valve cover, valve train, fan bolts
12. drain radiator completely, remove hoses, remove radiator and grill from tractor
13. remove head nuts, yank off head, clean off 20 years of tractor poop, move to the garage
14. setup drill press, hmmm, nope that won't work, broken extractor isn't flat enough on top to drill out without screwing up more drill bits
15. aha, it's the first stud on the head, can get to it from inside via the radiator opening. It sticking out into the water jacket.
16. 3 taps on a metal rod pops the broken extractor out of the hole.
17. drill, tap the hole for the new stud.
18. back outside, wrap the engine block in plastic to keep the rain out. Now that the head's off, I might as well do an in-block rebuild.
19. put just about every tool in my collection back where it goes. Total time: 4 hours. (Good thing I don't do this for a living, eh?)

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JeffLTN

11-08-2005 08:46:48




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 Re: Simple task in reply to David in UT, 10-31-2005 06:23:32  
Hey man I have a 86 Ranger 4X4 on the back part of my neighbors farm in Strayhorn MS. When can you come and demonstrate that procedure for me on the LH exhaust manifold? I was gonna let it go but if'n it's really this easy I'm willing to learn!

Seriously, you lucked up with the backside access. I have removed hundreds of broen/stripped screws/studs from airplanes. A good dental burr and a dremel tool works great for removing the broken off easy out. Your local dental or medical supply store can provide these burrs. Go easy with the lateral pressure though, the tips can break fairly easily.

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Dakota Jim

10-31-2005 19:15:43




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 Re: Simple task in reply to David in UT, 10-31-2005 06:23:32  
I can sympathize. If it is something important like my old tractor, I learned from painful experience to very carefully center and then drill the hole out, one tortous 1/64 of an inch at a time. I just keep going until I am down to just threads left and then pick them out. A miserable task to be sure, but only a quarter as miserable as breaking off an "easy" out. I never want to go throught that again as long as I live.

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MagMan

10-31-2005 17:25:38




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 Re: Simple task in reply to David in UT, 10-31-2005 06:23:32  
That sounds like my H motor I pulled it in Sep 2004 and and slowly day by day I am getting closer to starting it again. Almost afraid to with all the machine work and $$$$ in this thing. Maybe I should just look at it untill next SEP and be glad of my acomplishments. LOL JON



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fluggin in IA

10-31-2005 14:37:23




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 Re: Simple task in reply to David in UT, 10-31-2005 06:23:32  
Sounds like my "simple" chore to change the wax ring on the toilet the other day (there was stinky water on the floor around the toilet). 3 hrs later and a bunch of parts from the hardware store, I have a totally rebuilt toilet and tank - all new parts (it was the tank mount bolts seeping slightly but once I moved the tank then the floods came). Things just never go as easy as we anticipate, I guess. That's why I almost never start a project when I know the hardware store is about to close.

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PurdueAg

10-31-2005 15:46:20




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 Re: Simple task in reply to fluggin in IA, 10-31-2005 14:37:23  
Sounds like my Sunday escapade. The left wheel on the F-12 I just bought was stuck. I was pretty sure it was a rusted brake shoe / drum, because the brake cover was rusted through. I figured I'd go out and remove the cover and drum and be done in 10 minutes. A pile of hammers, wedges, cold chisels, etc., and an hour and a half later I finally got the drum off and freed-up the wheel.



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Joe Kimbriel

10-31-2005 12:12:55




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 Re: Simple task in reply to David in UT, 10-31-2005 06:23:32  
I learned it here and it really works. If you have any amount of the stud sticking out of the head, hang a nut on it and arc weld the nut to the stud. Back it out with a wrench. The heat loosens up the rust and out she comes.



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RustyFarmall

10-31-2005 07:25:13




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 Re: Simple task in reply to David in UT, 10-31-2005 06:23:32  
And did the screw extractors go back into the tool box or did they go to the iron pile? All of mine went to the iron pile years ago.



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captaink

10-31-2005 08:49:55




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 Re: Simple task in reply to RustyFarmall, 10-31-2005 07:25:13  
I keep mine and I call them easy-outs. If it will come out easy I try one. If I have to put a wrench on it to turn it, I put it back away before I break it. As you have guessed, mine don’t get used, but once in a while I’ll snap a screw off tightening it and since it’s not rusted in, the easy out will work.



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Peabody

10-31-2005 07:06:40




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 Re: Simple task in reply to David in UT, 10-31-2005 06:23:32  
But the next time you do it, it will go a lot faster!



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chadd

10-31-2005 06:34:18




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 Re: Simple task in reply to David in UT, 10-31-2005 06:23:32  
Wow, you must have really been moving. It probably would have taken me 8 hours to accomplish all of that!



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Norm in Alabama

10-31-2005 07:33:35




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 Re: Simple task in reply to chadd, 10-31-2005 06:34:18  
That sounds like my usual way of doing things - The hard way ha ha. LOL. Norm



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