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MagMan

10-28-2005 18:38:52




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OK I went to hook up the clutch rod today and something is not right. I checked the finger adjustment before I installed the motor but now the clutch rod is screwed out almost all the way and it only disingauges the clutch about a half inch there is about 4 "s of free play in the pedal. Any ideas? New clutch and pressure plate. JON




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the tractor vet

10-28-2005 18:46:35




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 Re: Cluth adjustment Problems in reply to MagMan, 10-28-2005 18:38:52  
You did take out the shipping screws or the nuts that they stuff down behind the finger or the three bolts that hold the plate against the springs now i am not sayen that they all come that way but the one i get always have either one depending weather the plate is drilled and tapped if it is not then they stuff nuts behind the fingers and if ya don't catch it when you install the plate then they fall down in feather and ya don't see them and 99% of the time this is why ya run out adjustment.

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Janicholson

10-28-2005 19:38:24




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 Re: Cluth adjustment Problems in reply to the tractor vet, 10-28-2005 18:46:35  
The Tractor Vet may be on target. If the fingers seem to be pushed in a long ways when you are looking at them and the clutch is pushed in all the way, then i think he is correct. If they are just a little pushed in thin there are other issues. Compare it to the old plate (or a different one if it is a returned core) to see what the fingers would look like when they are mid position like there was a new disk in the assembly.
My two cents, JimN

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MagMan

10-29-2005 02:54:42




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 Re: Cluth adjustment Problems in reply to Janicholson, 10-28-2005 19:38:24  
I did remove the 3 screws after instalation. And I have checked with a old one I have and its real similar. I have done this on vehicles and tractors in the past but somthing is not right here. I guess I will keep plugging on getting her running and worry about the clutch later. Now I am kinda wondering if my flywheel was out of spec or something. I replaced the throw out also and it was exactly the same as what came out of it. Oh well I guess I will worry about it later but it will probly dig at me for months. LOL JON

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Janicholson

10-29-2005 08:08:39




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 Re: Cluth adjustment Problems in reply to MagMan, 10-29-2005 02:54:42  
Magman,
If the new disk was an eighth" thicker than the original (new) thickness the adjustment would be extended in the direction yours was.
Though unlikely, a pin in the clutch throwout cross shaft could be partially sheared. or something assembled backwards.
Looking at another tractor's clutch can be a real revelation. While you are about, looking is very cheap (compared to the anguish of not knowing).
JimN

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MagMan

10-29-2005 16:48:14




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 Re: Cluth adjustment Problems in reply to Janicholson, 10-29-2005 08:08:39  
Yep I have looked at an other I have and I am stumped I am thinking that I may have got a bad pressure plate. I had two choices new plate or rebuilt I went with the turned one and I think its too thin.Maybe between the wear in the flywheel and the turned pressure plate thats whats going on . Thats the only thing I can think of my self. JON



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Janicholson

10-29-2005 20:09:23




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 Re: Cluth adjustment Problems in reply to MagMan, 10-29-2005 16:48:14  
Jon,
Just a thought exercize from here.

If the friction disk is installed backwards (Torsion springs to the F.W.) the disk will hold out the plate about 1/4-3/8 inch and cause the symptoms you describe!

As My thinking puts it together, the thinner the disk, and the more worn (or machined) the surfaces of the F.W. or P.P., the less the fingers will be pushed inward as the P.P. is tightened to the F.W.
This would "tighten" the adjustment and cause near zero freeplay at the pedal.

When every part is factory spec. new the fingers are compressed deeper into the P.P. This condition will result in the linkage needing to be lengthened to reduce freeplay. Yours needs to be longer yet!

As clutch surfaces wear (or disinegrate) the freeplay becomes less and less, till it is gone and the clutch slips.


I'd use a straight edge to check the depth of the fingers on a different tractor (both compressed with the clutch depressed, and with the clutch engaged, pedal out),Then compare it to the reluctant one.
Wish I was there!
JimN

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