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Fan Belt Adjustment On M

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Paul in WI

10-24-2005 18:19:45




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Our Neighbor has an IH M and needs to tighten the fan belt. It looks like the adjustment means is a variable width shive that moves on a large diameter thread. Said another way, the side of the pully closest to the radiator appears to move in and out by rotating it on a threaded collar. The fan blades are also attached to the threaded collar.

My question is, What locks the shive in place to keep it from moving on the thread when the tractor is running? At the very front of the fan shaft there is some sort of rocker mechanism I do not understand. Is this related to the movement or locking of the fan shive?

Thanks ahead of time for any help or advice you can give.

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Paul in WI

10-25-2005 18:43:46




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 Re: Fan Belt Adjustment On M in reply to Paul in WI, 10-24-2005 18:19:45  
Thanks a bunch to each of you for the information. What was supposed to be a set screw appears to be a glob of weld. I will have to look more closely at that. Thanks again. Paul



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Haas

10-25-2005 07:09:42




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 Re: Fan Belt Adjustment On M in reply to Paul in WI, 10-24-2005 18:19:45  
No one mentioned the "rocker" mechanism at the front of the fan. That has nothing to do with the fan belt tension. It is the driver for the water pump. The M water pump is designed with a "floating" shaft and there is no stress on the water pump shaft from the fan belt. The water pump housing extends all the way forward to the fan. On that extension, the fan pulley runs on ball bearings that you grease through one of the fittings on the water pump at the front of the engine. The fitting at the front of the fan is attached to the rotating hub with two studs and then keyed to the front of the water pump shaft with a tapered bolt. That is what drives the water pump. Packing beween the water pump shaft and the housing on which the bearings are mounted keeps the coolant in. I hope this is not too confusing. I suggest you get a manual that shows a cross section of the water pump and you will understand it better. Also, one of the grease fittings at the water pump is for the fan hub ball bearings and the other for the water pump packing. Grease these only once a year and then do not force the grease in. A couple of strokes of the gun is enough. More and you will just force the bearing grease seals to leak and the assembly will sling grease all over the front.

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john d

10-24-2005 21:28:12




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 Re: Fan Belt Adjustment On M in reply to Paul in WI, 10-24-2005 18:19:45  
The adjustment is by means of a threaded sheave on one side of the pulley located on the fan hub. Look closely at that pulley, and you'll see threads on the front portion of the hub. You'll also find a set screw with a locking nut on it. Loosen the nut, then remove the set screw. Actually you don't have to totally remove it, but....it may have been 20-30 years since that pulley's been adjusted. My advice is to remove it totally. Spray some good penetrating oil into the hole where the set screw had been, and turn it up on top so the oil can start working on the threads. If you have a wire brush, clean the threads in front of the pulley. If you don't have a wire brush, use an old toothbrush and some carb cleaner or more penetrating oil. When the threads look pretty clean, use a long punch and a hammer to TAP on the raised boss opposite where you removed the set screw. Tap it one way for a while, then the other way, until it starts to turn. (Note: do NOT CLOBBER THAT HUB AND BREAK IT!) Patience is required in this adventure!
Once the hub has been cleaned and loosened until it will turn freely on those threads by hand, you're ready to put on a new belt, tighten the hub, and re-install the set screw. Don't forget the lock nut! The end of the set screw is supposed to go into the groove machined into the threaded portion. I replaced the one my '49 M a couple of years ago, and it took me well over an hour to get it all cleaned, loose, and put back together. It's amazing how much dirt can lodge in those threads!
The belt does not have to be extremely tight to work well. A similar system is used to tighten the generator belt, with the movable pulley sheave being on the generator.

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Sheepdog

10-24-2005 18:39:42




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 Re: Fan Belt Adjustment On M in reply to Paul in WI, 10-24-2005 18:19:45  
The rotating collar has a set screw in it and a locking nut (ahead of belt). Back out screw, use big water pump pliers or something to tighten collar. It helps to turn fan once in a while to let belt crawl up in pulley. The large diameter threads have four slots running front to back that the set screww will seat in when you are done. Lock nut. You might have to soak collar and threads with something, sometimes they are seized up.

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