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Running 460 wont start

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donwisc

10-19-2005 10:44:55




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Just got back from So Dakota pheasant hunting and the land owners 460 with Farmhand loader would not start. It had been running good, put in the shed and then would nt start.

1 Carb was taken off and cleaned, it is getting gas

2 New points and condenser put in.

3 got spark to the plugs

4 new dist cap and rotor, firing order is correct

5 used but good coil put in

6 During one test; Took dist cap off, coil wire off cap. touch block with coil wire, getting spark by coil wire by opening and closing the points. Is this Kosher or does it indicate a problem?

Tryed starting by pulling in 4th gear, did not fire at all even with starting fluid.Smoke comes out of exhaust and carb when using starting fluid and choking

We are stumped, Could not check compression, thinking broken cam shaft or gear..Any similar experience or suggestions?

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frogman

10-22-2005 13:01:09




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 Re: Running 460 wont start in reply to donwisc, 10-19-2005 10:44:55  
try removing air intake, maybe, its not getting air. that is what was wrong with mine. The oil in my breather was too thick to allow for air to get to carb. cleaned out filter, and is okay.



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El Toro

10-19-2005 15:01:23




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 Re: Running 460 wont start in reply to donwisc, 10-19-2005 10:44:55  
Bring No1 plug up on the compression stroke to TDC
and see where your rotor is pointing. Should be at No1 position in your distributor. Hal



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Nat

10-19-2005 13:00:34




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 Re: Running 460 wont start in reply to donwisc, 10-19-2005 10:44:55  
A simple test to see if the cam is turning is to take the distributor cap off and turn the engine over with the starter. The distributor is driven off the cam, so if the rotor rotates, the cam is turning.

It's not likely that ALL the plugs are so badly fouled that they won't fire. I'm expecting that you've got a timing issue, or a fuel flow problem. Pull some plugs and check them for wetness.

Also, if the starter is turning the engine over and it won't start, pulling the tractor around the yard won't magically make it start. The only reason to pull start the tractor is if there is a problem with the starter.

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Nebraska Cowman

10-19-2005 11:04:45




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 Re: Running 460 wont start in reply to donwisc, 10-19-2005 10:44:55  
yes, you should have a strong blue spark when you open the points. I suppose the cap could be bad. Otherwise I'd double check the timing. Something could be broken but I realy doubt it. Have you taken the plugs out? If they are wet with gasoline or oil it won't start.



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