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Reddog

10-16-2005 20:25:53




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I am working on refurbing a running gear I bought at an auction last weekend. Once I have the running gear redone I will need to build a deck on it, not for hauling hay but for carrying kids thru my pumkin patch and in parades. I walked over to my neighbors and looked at his hay wagon and it appears to me that the deck is not bolted to the running gear, it is just chained on by two opposing corners. Is this so the running gear can flex under the deck depending on terrain ??? Any suggestions on what I should do with my wagon would be welcomed.

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Mike

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fluggie in IA

10-17-2005 10:29:10




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 Re: Hay Wagon info needed in reply to Reddog, 10-16-2005 20:25:53  
One style I have pulled for various occasions is a steel framed "people mover" with wood planking for seats, floor boards and back rests. This was built in a metal fab shop and they build the seat part over the tires by only about 2 inches. This works terrific as the people (kids included) can just step up to the floor board and sit right down without having to climb onto the rack bed. I can make a sketch for you if you just e-mail me. We use this for many events around our town - 4th of July, annual town celebration, Harvest festival, tour of homes, parades, etc.

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Ernest

10-17-2005 06:25:50




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 Re: Hay Wagon info needed in reply to Reddog, 10-16-2005 20:25:53  
We bolt the 2 opposite corners and chain the other 2 opposite.
It is for flex. Chaining alone will allow the bed to slide some.



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El Toro

10-17-2005 05:43:02




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 Re: Hay Wagon info needed in reply to Reddog, 10-16-2005 20:25:53  
He may have it chained so he can remove it and mount another rack on it easily. Hal



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Janicholson

10-17-2005 06:49:52




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 Re: Hay Wagon info needed in reply to El Toro, 10-17-2005 05:43:02  
El Toro,
Assuming the running gear is not on springs, I give the following advice.

1}Keep the bed low (within 4" of the tires at the top. This idea keeps the center of gravety low and reduces the distance for falls.
2} Use U bolts over the stringers (lengthwise structure) on all four corners. The deck will flex enough on terrain suitable for rides (or hauling hay)and security is most important.
3} Use treated wood for all parts. The minor expense is worth the long life and continued good looks. 4 or 3 by 8 for stringers, and 5/4 toung and groove for deck. Put the deck on 1/2" long on both sides then use a clamped on straight edge to guide the saw for cutoff. Round the outer edge with a 3/8 radius router bit to minimize splinters.
4} Screw it together with exposure rated screws. I like the blue TapCon screws designed for concrete. they are tough and can be sized correctly. Predrill the deck to clear the threads and pilot drill the stringers. Screw two inches minimum into the stringers.
5} Band the edges with 2X4 flat and under the decking.
6} It is best to have sides (maybe short) to provide a boundary and a grip (it also keeps some straw in the wagon).
7} Don't paint it. It just looks bad after one season and prevents drying of the wood.
8} Use a cross pinned hitch pin, not a bolt, in the hitch. Use safety chains to the drawbar as well.
9} Have parents sign wavers of liability, no exceptions.

I've built several wagons and pulled hayrides for years in the mid 60s to mid 70s. These Ideas are revamped based on newer thinking, and safety.
I hope they help. JimN

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El Toro

10-17-2005 07:04:22




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 Re: Hay Wagon info needed in reply to Janicholson, 10-17-2005 06:49:52  
Hi Jim, The orchard where we pick strawberries
have a wagon converted to hauling people to the orchard. It has bench like seats and has a backrest too. They don't ask you to sign a waiver, but if I was doing it, I would ask them too. They even had a little stairway with handrails too. They used a Super C to pull it and I commented how nice the tractor ran. The fellow driving said it should they got shafted
with a cracked block and had to replace the block
and had new sleeves, pistons and bearings installed. Never said what the cost was. I'm
plowing the garden today nice and cool out here in MD. Hal

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