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wonder if a farmall m could have been a all fuel

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derek schwartin

10-16-2005 18:26:16




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i have a 1940 farmall m serial number fbk 7827. there is this extra hole on the other side of the aircleaner and a bunch of extra wires and controls. the tractor is in the process of being restored and want to know. i got on this website eariler and found out that maybe it could have been one.someone was talking about that it had a pony motor or some thing. i want to know that and how rare the tractor is and the value

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RustyFarmall

10-16-2005 22:12:04




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 Re: wonder if a farmall m could have been a all f in reply to derek schwarting, 10-16-2005 18:26:16  
Billde is correct. The majority of the earlier Ms and Hs used distillate as the primary fuel. The problem with this fuel was that the engine would not burn it until it was good and warmed up, hence the engine had to be started on gasoline, so 2 fuel tanks were required. The big main tank held the distillate, and a small, approx, 1 gallon tank held the gasoline. The "extra" hole in the hood is where the filler neck of the smaller tank came through.

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billde

10-16-2005 19:56:47




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 Re: wonder if a farmall m could have been a all f in reply to derek schwarting, 10-16-2005 18:26:16  
sounds like tour tractor was set up for kerosene or distillate, the hole in the hood was for the gasoline tank. Started on gas, switched over to kero or dist, hence the extra controls. Can't tell you what the extra wires were for, probably just left over from a re-wire job. Most of the older H and M tractors were low grade fuel burners.



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CNKS

10-16-2005 19:06:36




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 Re: wonder if a farmall m could have been a all f in reply to derek schwarting, 10-16-2005 18:26:16  
There is no such thing as an "all fuel" M. The engine was designed either for gasoline, kerosene or distillate. Heads and pistons, etc were different for each. All would run on gas, I suppose a distillate would run on kerosene and vice versa. But, each engine ran best on the fuel for which it was designed. Don't know what the hole is for. Could be a power unit engine that had to use a fuel pump. That does not explain the wires. It never had a pony motor. In case you have a diesel (chassis prefix should be FDBK) it would be a start on gas, and would have a carb and dist/magneto. It's an M, in running order it's worth between $500 and $1500 or thereabouts.

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Jay (ND)

10-16-2005 19:24:06




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 Re: wonder if a farmall m could have been a all f in reply to CNKS, 10-16-2005 19:06:36  
CNKS - The H I picked up the other day has an extra hole as well in the opposite location as the air cleaner approximately. Now I know that the H didn't have a diesel. I also know that an H hood won't fit an M. So a friend told me today that his dad told him that on 'some' of these tractors there was an auxillary gas tank in that spot. So if you ran out of gas in the big tank, there was enough left in the small one to get me home. I wanted to call BS on him, but I have no clue.

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CNKS

10-16-2005 19:40:22




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 Re: wonder if a farmall m could have been a all f in reply to Jay (ND), 10-16-2005 19:24:06  
Found a picture of a U6, the fuel pump appears to be under the carburetor. The small tank was on the right side, but it was not attached to the engine. Could it possibly be a coincidence that you are both missing the draft tube -- surely not, as the tube is attached to the cover over the push rods. Otherwise, there simply is no factory hole in that location.



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Jay (ND)

10-16-2005 19:55:44




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 Re: wonder if a farmall m could have been a all f in reply to CNKS, 10-16-2005 19:40:22  
All I can tell you for certain is that this is a factory hole.



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CNKS

10-17-2005 17:08:48




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 Re: wonder if a farmall m could have been a all f in reply to Jay (ND), 10-16-2005 19:55:44  
Misread the original post, the wire thing confused me. If the hole is in the hood, yes it was for the starting gas tank -- could be used as a reserve if you want to.



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