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Winter starting for Farmall H

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Rev.

10-14-2005 09:43:23




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I have to park my H outside for the winter. I live in Mi and use it to plow snow and have a hard time starting it, if I get it started at all. It is 6 volt. Is there a block heater that works well for this tractor? I would think it would be an external heater but am not sure.

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Rev.




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El Toro

10-14-2005 15:56:30




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 Re: Winter starting for Farmall H in reply to Rev., 10-14-2005 09:43:23  
Give Phillips & Temro a call on Monday and see if they have a block heater. Their number is 1-800-328-6108. I think they're located up your way.
Hal



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williamf

10-14-2005 14:22:17




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 Re: Winter starting for Farmall H in reply to Rev., 10-14-2005 09:43:23  
Another small help that you rarely hear mentioned. If you push down the clutch while turning it over it takes the load of the thick, stiff gear oil off of the starter. And the Liftall. Wm



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26Red

10-14-2005 14:09:40




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 Re: Winter starting for Farmall H in reply to Rev., 10-14-2005 09:43:23  
Try a tank heater first. It does wonders and is easy to install. Plumb it from the cylinder head(where the temp sensor is for temp gage) an run it to the block drain plug behind the carb..

Our H starts easily at 10 below zero(it also has 12volt conversion)...any colder and you're wishing for a heated cab!



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EricB

10-14-2005 12:03:26




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 Re: Winter starting for Farmall H in reply to Rev., 10-14-2005 09:43:23  
Hi Rev.
Well here's another point of view. You have good advice so far but I gave up on the 6v system since I as always boosting it with 12v expecially in winter. So I switched to 12v system. Best thing I ever did. No more frustrations. EVER.

About that block heater. You can put an inline heater in but what I did that was more effecive was this.
There is a cover plate on the left side that runs along the side of the pistons. Its held on by 8 or 10 bolts. If you remove this plate you are right into the water jacket. A small block heater can sit right between #2 and #3 cylinnders. This makes a real neat installation and gets the heat to where it's needed. Cheap to do too! Just make sure you mark the centre placement carerfully since there isn't a lot of room.

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Dave in CT

10-14-2005 14:14:59




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 Re: Winter starting for Farmall H in reply to EricB, 10-14-2005 12:03:26  
How much of the space between #2 and #3 does the heater occupy? I'm not trying to be a smartass but, once you get it started, don't you want the cooling to be uniform around the cylinders? I would say that _any_ heater would be enough of a boost on a well-tuned H as to make winter starting trouble-free.



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John T

10-14-2005 11:17:26




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 Re: Winter starting for Farmall H in reply to Rev., 10-14-2005 09:43:23  
Rev, Bob has ya darn well covered and does about the same as I. When I owned Farmalls years ago I told people when winter starting to just try n milk the pistons over i.e. push the starter till a piston rolls over on compression then let her rest a tad then repeat the process. DO NOT JUST KEEP THE STARTER ENGAGED cuz the battery will run down. I found if the ignition was in tip top shape just rolling n milking a piston up to TDC would eventually hit n make her run Yayyyyy yyyyy yyyyy

Keep direct rain or snow off the distributor BUT DO NOT have them tight plastic covered so they cant breathe and moisture condenses on them.

Use good wires and boots and maybe a lil ignition spray so moisture dont infiltrate into the high voltage wiring causing arcing

Keep fresh clean water free gas and use Sta Bill and water remover in the gas now n then as needed.

If and as necessary, non abrasively clean/buff/polish the points with a dollar bill drug between them to remove the gray oxide build up. Keep the distributor cap clean n dry inside n out.

DID ANYONE MENTION 00 GAUGE BATTERY N STARTER N GROUND CABLES AND HEAVY RATED BATTERYS LOL

John T

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RustyFarmall

10-14-2005 10:38:19




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 Re: Winter starting for Farmall H in reply to Rev., 10-14-2005 09:43:23  
Check with an auto parts store, or even your local farm store if you have one. There is a "magnetic" heater. Just stick it on the side of the engine block and plug it in. Your other alternative is one of those "tank type" heaters, probably better, but a lot more hassle to install.



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jayw

10-14-2005 17:48:44




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 Re: Winter starting for Farmall H in reply to RustyFarmall, 10-14-2005 10:38:19  
Have too agree with Rusty, I bought a magnet heater last year for my H and it was great! The good thing about it is I use the same Heater on all 4 tractors.



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Bob M

10-14-2005 10:37:13




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 Re: Winter starting for Farmall H in reply to Rev., 10-14-2005 09:43:23  
Rev - In good shape and properly tuned, the Farmall letter series are some of the best cold weather starting tractors ever made. Mine start reliably even when it’s colder than I care to operate ‘em (below 0). A few tips:

1 – Keep ignition in top shape: Good plugs, good solid copper wires, points clean and properly adjusted, etc.

2 – Good battery. Use the biggest (highest CCA) rated battery that will fit in the box. If the battery is more than 3 – 4 years old, replace it now!

3 – Good battery cables. Use #0 or #00 cables, and keep ‘em as short as possible. Keep in mind even cables that look good on the outside can be severely corroded near the terminals and severely limit cranking power. Also all power carrying terminals must be clean and tight. If the starter switch is at all questionable, replace it too.

4 – Good charging system. Make sure the generator works so to keep the battery charged. If you plow after dark minimize the use of the lights (lights consume nearly all the generator output). Or else keep a trickle charger hooked up and turned on thru the cold months.

5 – Carburetor properly set: Should need choking only briefly while cranking. Once running there should be no black visible in the exhaust at any speed.

6 – Keep fresh gas in the tank. Fill the tank with gas purchased recently in cold weather. Reason: In the north refiners boost the volatility of gas in colder months. Also gas gradually loses it’s volatility (hence cold starting ability) just sitting in the tank. If the tank has summer gas in it, dump it into a fuel injected car and replace it with fresh gas.

Follow the above and you will not need an auxiliary block heater etc. And you will save a little on your electric bill too!

Good luck and keep warm!

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