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Poorboy

10-03-2005 14:15:53




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You guys have probably answered this one a dozen times. I built a tow bar for my M that mounts to the bolster where the wheel cleaners mount. It trails like it is on rails at 15MPH How fast do I dare go???

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Aces

10-04-2005 08:11:52




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to Poorboy, 10-03-2005 14:15:53  
Poorboy In my first post I forgot to say in 5th gear the pilot bearing does not turn so when you tow the pilot bearing turns faster then any gear, plus bad lube. The cluster gears need to turn to oil properly and they don't turn when towing.



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Aces

10-03-2005 19:46:10




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to Poorboy, 10-03-2005 14:15:53  
Poorboy I think most forgot to point out that the tranny does not oil properly when towed and the pilot bearing is turning faster because the inup shaft is not turning at all.



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crazyloon

10-03-2005 19:26:41




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to Poorboy, 10-03-2005 14:15:53  
This whole string is just crazy. Why are you towing a M in the first place with a tow bar - are you just looking for a way to become poorer? Drive it or get it on a trailer if going any distance at all. Think of the innocent people who might be impacted by this stunt let alone the nice piece of history about to be trashed.



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DWV

10-03-2005 18:02:16




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to Poorboy, 10-03-2005 14:15:53  
If towing that way I would mount tow bar to bolt holes at top of lower bolster.where you are mounting bar puts a lot more leverage pressure on steering shaft and would make it easyer to snap off with a fast stop or start.Also if towing M in neutral engine off the lower transmission shaft and transmission input shaft do not turn reducing
lubrication to main shaft front bearing.



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CNKS

10-03-2005 17:05:57




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to Poorboy, 10-03-2005 14:15:53  
If you must tow the tractor, don't exceed the speed the tractor can go by itself -- 15,16 mph, 20 mph absolute tops for an M. 15-20 mph is crawl speed for a truck, seems like you are flying on the tractor -- it has no suspension, wheels will bounce on every bump on the road, and the bounce will take the tractor with it. Sharp curves can roll it, even at 15 mph. Front end will shimmy at higher speeds, even if it doesn't when you drive it. That's why I initially said to tow the truck instead.

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Sloroll

10-03-2005 15:32:03




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to Poorboy, 10-03-2005 14:15:53  
The old timers told me when I started dragging old iron home about 20mph tops as the rear end won't lubricate its'self propperly.



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CNKS

10-03-2005 14:32:49




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to Poorboy, 10-03-2005 14:15:53  
You have the wrong thing in front -- tow your pickup.



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dhermesc

10-03-2005 15:18:07




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to CNKS, 10-03-2005 14:32:49  
If your pickup is an automatic make sure you drop the drive shaft or put it in neutral and let the engine idle.



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Hugh MacKay

10-03-2005 14:53:39




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to CNKS, 10-03-2005 14:32:49  
CNKS: Come to think of it your exactly right. I did quite a bit of custom work with 100+ hp tractors and combine and yes, we always had the tow bar on the pickup, and towed it behind. Even with a 150 gal. fuel tank on back of pickup.



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Nebraska Cowman

10-03-2005 14:17:42




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to Poorboy, 10-03-2005 14:15:53  
about 20, maybe 25. Above that the rear tires will start to bounce.



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Hugh MacKay

10-03-2005 15:14:33




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-03-2005 14:17:42  
Howard: I will not dispute what your saying, as what I am about to tell is slightly different.

I was coming out a side road when what did I see go past but a Chrysler mini van pulling a car dolly with the front wheels of a MH 33 standard straped to the dolly and rear tires running on the road. I estimated he was making 40 to 50 mph. I pulled on road behind him and following, sure enough he was making 50 mph. I followed some 25 miles expecting at any minute to see the bull gears of that old MH launched in space.

After 25 miles he turned onto the 4 lane, thankfully I wasn't going that way. I mentioned this to a friend and they knew exactly who he was and did confirm he went with traffic at 65 mph on the 4 lane for 30 miles to the town where he was a preacher. I had gone to school with this guy and we all knew he was nuts. Even after what I saw, I still wouldn't recomend it, especially with a mini van. Dump truck loaded with about 5 ton maybe. I guess he probably had the lord travelling with him, but alas Poorboy the lord can probably take more chances than you. Take heed with what Howard is telling you. Failure to do so, may make you a whole lot poorer.

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Illinois Boy

10-03-2005 14:42:12




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 Re: Tow speed in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-03-2005 14:17:42  
Slow - the tire are not designed for road speeds.
Plus, remember reactions time - a lot easier to adjust for the incidental unknowns when going slow.



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