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John Boudreau

09-25-2005 18:47:35




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I have 55 cub. It starts and runs fine for about 5-10 minutes then quits. I can see that there is NO fuel getting to the carb when it quits as the clear fuel filter is dry. I have done just about everything I can think of to fix the problem, e.g.
#1. removed the petcock assembly and gas bowl and filter. Took all part, nothing blocking found, blew out with air. Gas still stops flowing. Petcock and fuel bowl assembly is a year old
#2 drained the gas tank, dried and blew out with air. problem continues
#3 took carb apart. Expected to find varnish or something but it was spotless. remove needle vlaue, idle screw etc., all appear in good shape blew out with air reammemsbled. Starts and quits after a short time Almost forgot I checked and cleaned out the fuel lines (1st thing I did + I reaplced the fuel filter)

It appears there is the fuel line is getting a vacum lock which stops the flow of gas. If the tractor sits idle a few minutes the gas will again begin to flow. I can get the gas to flow again immediately if I disconnect the fuel line and syphon it by mouth gas will flow fine the tractor will restart and run 5 to 10 minutes before the same thing happens again. I'm open for suggestions, Thanks, JB

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Rudi

09-26-2005 11:14:47




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 Re: cub fuel problem in reply to John Boudreau, 09-25-2005 18:47:35  
John:

You wrote: "I have 55 cub. It starts and runs fine for about 5-10 minutes then quits. I can see that there is NO fuel getting to the carb when it quits as the clear fuel filter is dry."

First, in a gravity type fuel system as a Cub is equipped with, fuel filters only accomplish one thing - restrict or completely prevent adequate fuel flow to the carb from the fuel tank.

Suggestions -

1. REMOVE auto type filter, or even lawn mower type filter - it is basically useless.
2. If you must have the fuel filter, then ensure that the fuel filter is at least 1 to 2 inches ABOVE the Fuel Filter Screen in the Carb Inlet.

Secondly, I would suggest that you visit the Cub Manual Server at www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/index.html and then read Lurker Carl's Carb Fixes series of articles which can be found under the Maintenance Tips and Techniques link.

You may also find that the little tiny almost impossible to see hole in the END of the Main Metering Jet may be plugged. This is a common and commonly overlooked item whence cleaning the carb.

As far as a vaccum lock, you have to have a pressurized system to essentially have that. The only instance that comes to mind where fuel flow might be impeded and mimic vaccum lock would be if your gas cap's vent holes are plugged. The cure for that is two fold. If you have the old original style cap, then I would suggest you click on the Navistar Free Gas Cap Offer Form link and fill it in after you print it. In about 4 months or so (last shipment was about 2 months ago) you will get a new one. Check the vent holes in this cap and make sure they are clean as a whistle. If you have the new style cap, make sure the vent holes are clean.

You wrote:

"I can get the gas to flow again immediately if I disconnect the fuel line and syphon it by mouth gas will flow fine the tractor will restart and run 5 to 10 minutes before the same thing happens again. I'm open for suggestions, Thanks, JB "

Even though I am by no means a mechanical whiz.. in fact I am mechanically challenged, I do know this. What you describe can only be caused by a couple of conditions... these are:

1. Addition of an extraneous in-line fuel filter.
2. Plugged vents in a gas cap

Please try these two cures... and let us know what happens.....

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Nat

09-26-2005 05:50:29




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 Re: cub fuel problem in reply to John Boudreau, 09-25-2005 18:47:35  
If the sediment bowl is dry, then there's obviously nothing wrong with the carburetor. You're not even getting fuel to the carb!

You've got a fuel flow problem at the tank. Either its vapor-locking because the gas cap's vents are plugged, or you've got a serious crud problem inside the tank.

"Blowing the tank out" with air, all you're doing is stirring up the crud. You might get a little bit coming out the neck, but most of the crud just bounces around inside the tank and goes right back to the bottom. Especially the big pieces.

You may need to take the gas tank to a radiator shop to have it cleaned.

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old

09-25-2005 19:18:07




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 Re: cub fuel problem in reply to John Boudreau, 09-25-2005 18:47:35  
Are you useing an auto type filter? Ones made for a car or truck with fuel pump? If you are that could be your problem, those filters are made to work on 5-7 psi preassure from a pump and will cause problems with fuel flow. You need a fuel filter made for no fuel pump. Or as Hal said either one or both could be your problem.



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El Toro

09-25-2005 19:08:04




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 Re: cub fuel problem in reply to John Boudreau, 09-25-2005 18:47:35  
Have you tried removing the gas cap and see if fuel will flow freely at the carburetor. It may not be vented. Hal



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