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Trip loader; How do you hook up???

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Paul Gabriel

09-20-2005 12:03:57




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I have a B-414 and would like to hook up an old loader with a trip bucket on it. The loader has the hoses but that is it! Where and how do I hook up these hoses and how do I control the lifting action? I has a good working 3 pt hitch.




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JB2

09-20-2005 17:20:33




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 Re: Trip loader; How do you hook up??? in reply to Paul Gabriel, 09-20-2005 12:03:57  
Hi Paul, did the loader come with:
1)single hydraulic hose to attach to tractor?
2)a separate hydraulic control valve?
3)how many hydraulic hose ends not attached?

Make and model? IH 1501 was standard loader for B414,434,444,384.

Tell us more and maybe we can help you.

JB2



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Paul Gabriel

09-20-2005 18:22:08




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 Re: Trip loader; How do you hook up??? in reply to JB2, 09-20-2005 17:20:33  
The loader is off a Massey Harris. It came separate from another purchase and I was hoping to put it on this tractor. There is no control valve on the loader or the other tractor but there was evidence there was. The loader has two hoses, one for each arm. There is a trip mechanism and that is it.
Even if this loader will not work for my tractor, will you walk me through the process of attaching a loader? Do I need a hydraulic control valve? ( Yes!!) WOuld I use a single or a double? How do I attach all of this and where?

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JB2

09-20-2005 21:04:55




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 Re: Trip loader; How do you hook up??? in reply to Paul Gabriel, 09-20-2005 18:22:08  
Two methods of hookup:

For loader itself connect the 2 single acting cylinders together and put a T fitting in the line by the right hand cylinder. From the T fitting connect a hydraulic hose that will either connect to the remote outlet on the back of the tractor for option 1 or to the lever controlled output of a single acting control valve as in option 2. 1)Cheap method if your tractor has a remote cylinder outlet at the rear. Using this method the 3pt control lever is used to raise and lower the loader. Position the 3pt control lever in about mid position of UP/DOWN then turn the valve at the front of the seat labeled SHUT OFF/ON to I believe the OFF position. Now the 3pt control lever controls the flow of the hydraulic oil to the rear remote outlet. Bad thing is you can’t use 3pt and loader together. I once saw a 434 that had a pipe fitting in that big plug in front of the seat and the hydraulic hose to the loader was directly connected to the pipe fitting but the proper part is a banjo fitting.
2)Installing a separate single acting hydraulic control valve and bolting it to the loader frame on the right side if you are right handed. Position it so that it is easily operated from the tractor seat. To connect this valve into the existing hydraulic system, IH used to sell a kit that replaced the high pressure (small) line that runs from the hydraulic pump to the reservoir under the seat. The kit consisted of 2 pieces of pipe, one long piece that ran from the hydraulic pump back to just in front of the brake pedal and then it pointed skyward and terminated in a male hydraulic hose fitting. This would be plumped using a short piece of hydraulic hose into the inlet port of the hydraulic control valve. The outlet port of the control valve would be connected via another short piece of hydraulic hose to the second piece of pipe that would then connect back to the reservoir under the seat.
The good thing about this connection method is both loader and 3pt can be used together, like with a back blade on 3pt and loader.

Hope this helps, to bad I can't draw pictures on this site.

JB2

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