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544 hydro stopped cold

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Land Designer

09-18-2005 09:47:10




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Running a bushhog, under normal operation, with my 544 diesel hydro, I pushed the speed ratio lever forward as usual, and the tractor engine started to bear down on the tranny, as usual, when the tractor just rocked back and the torque on the engine released. There was no bang or strange sound, as if something violent had happened. At that point I had no forward or reverse hydro. All my other systems are working--PTO, 3 point hitch, remotes, and steering.

The local IH service guy says "Bring the tractor in and we'll run tests with gauges."

The local tractor guru, who works out of his barn shop and "can tell you instantly what's wrong", asked me if the PTO was OK, then pronounced that I had "blown the charge pump".

A multi-state IH dealer who is refered to on these discussion boards a lot, got me to their repair guy with the most hydro experience, and he said "If the power steering runs smooth, it's a stuck high pressure valve (either "forward" or "reverse", results in no movement in either direction"), and if the steering is jerky, it's a bad charge pump.

My steering is smooth. Does anyone have any ideas who's right. If it's a valve, can they be rebuilt or must they be purchased complete. How big a job to change them? Can I assume, because it went out as I was trying to go forward, that it's the "forward valve?"

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JJK

09-18-2005 14:46:46




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 Re: 544 hydro stopped cold in reply to Land Designer, 09-18-2005 09:47:10  
Hydro's can be tricky to diagnose and as long as the linkage is all OK (the forward/neutral/reverse control rod isn't disconnected or broke for example) then I'd go with the guy that has the most experience with hydro's. Most valves can be cleaned up and made to work again. I don't have my service books with me so I can't help you out with some of the Q's on hydro's without having to look it up but to me it don't sound like it should be to serious but just to locate the problem is the whole thing. Remember that hydro's need clean oil so make sure the filter gets changed on a regular basis and change the oil when it needs it. Also keep the oil cooler clean.

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Land Designer

09-18-2005 18:49:58




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 Re: 544 hydro stopped cold in reply to JJK, 09-18-2005 14:46:46  
Thanks for the help, JJK.

I promised my trusty ol' 544 that she would be getting a drink of fresh oil and clean filters if she just pulls thru this problem.

I just hope those release valves can be accessed without splitting the tractor.



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magiver

09-25-2005 08:19:30




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 Re: 544 hydro stopped cold in reply to Land Designer, 09-18-2005 18:49:58  
I had the same problem with dad"s hydro. It ended up being the front charge pump.



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