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Oil Bath making a mess!!!!!!

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chadd

09-12-2005 11:43:14




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The other day I was driving our W6 home from conditioning hay. When I threw down the throttle for engine braking and to let a car pass, the oil bath sprayed oil right around the clamp holding the cup on the bottom and all over the battery terminals, belt pulley housing, the side of the motor, and my shoe. It has only done this once, but I also notice that the precleaner cap gets a thick coating of oil after running for a month and that oil will occasionally run down the outside of the air cleaner pipe sticking out of the hood. It doesn't seem to be backfiring when it occurs. Has anyone ever had this happen to them? How do I fix it?

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JeffL-TN

09-12-2005 14:43:04




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 Re: Oil Bath making a mess!!!!!! in reply to chadd, 09-12-2005 11:43:14  
Can't argue with Jim.

Compression blowing by one or more intake valves. I'd start with Compression check/bleed down check. The last incident you've descibed is text book valve blow by.

Incidentally this is a good way to get a carb fire going.



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Janicholson

09-12-2005 12:29:22




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 Re: Oil Bath making a mess!!!!!! in reply to chadd, 09-12-2005 11:43:14  
Assuming the cup is clean, and the correct oil, at the level marked on the side, is the situation.

The only way oil can be drooling and be "blowing out" is from internal pressure. Internal pressure can come fron turning the engine backwards (happens when shutting off hot quite often), or Modest to sevier backfiring in the intake manifold, or pressure coming from the crancase vent from valve cover to air cleaner (not likley, may not have the tube, I can't remember).
If intake backfire, it can be muffeled and not loud. But it may indicate an intake valve that is beginning to go bad, or sticking, causing flame to ignite intake charge. Because there should not be oil mist and deposits on the precleaner, there may be further indication of internal issues with valves.
Check the road draft tube (open tube on right side by frame rail) to be sure it is not clogged. Two bolts, and it is off, clean in solvent and rod out to be certain.
If this tube is basically clean already, I would do a compression check, then a cylinder leakdown check. Good luck and let us know what happens.
JimN

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chadd

09-13-2005 05:02:32




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 Re: Oil Bath making a mess!!!!!! in reply to Janicholson, 09-12-2005 12:29:22  
I haven't heard it backfire since I fixed the intake manifold gasket over a year ago. It really runs well and has a lot of power. When it backfires, it makes kind of a thunking noise out of the precleaner doesn't it? Also, I had just adjusted the valves a few months ago; that wouldn't cause this, would it? I looked at the outside of the draft tube and it too is covered in oil mist. Also, this tractor has never turned backwards so I don't think that is it. I notice whenever I go from full throttle in road gear and slow the gas lever all the way down to idle in preparation for a corner, it pops out the exhaust repeatedly until it reaches idle. Is this normal? Could this be part of the problem? I don't think it is compression, as it starts with two cranks of the handcrank, but I suppose if just one cylinder had bad compression, it could still start well. If any of the above info gives you any other ideas, let me know. Otherwise, it looks like I am going to be starting with the breather. I imagine it didn't get cleaned much in the past 30 years.

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Janicholson

09-13-2005 05:56:21




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 Re: Oil Bath making a mess!!!!!! in reply to chadd, 09-13-2005 05:02:32  
It is totally normal for popping cracking and blubbering flames from the exhaust. (spectacular at night with a bunch of city kids in a hay waggon).
The fuel is not shut off like it is in a FI system, and it is burned in the exhaust. Not environmentally cool, but normal. Valve adjust::: consider each cylinder individually, and be sure of what you are looking at. Adjust as follows: When the exhaust valve just starts to open (rocker moves a tad) adjust the intake. When the Intake just closes (rocker stops moving) adjust the exhaust. This is a can't go wrong on any 4 stroke, including those with multiple (more than two) valves per cyl. There is good reason to repair what is wrong with your unit, Good luck.
JimN

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