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For Hugh MacKay

08-28-2005 16:30:19




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A good machine shop will install sleeves in blocks of all types. I know of no engines that could not have dry sleeves put in. The primary use (and quite often done) is to repair an engine whos block is very rare, or more expensive to replace than sleeve.
In some cases it is possible to sleeve an engine just to be able to use a good set of pistons. Shrink fit sleeves can be installed without a shoulder on top. Either by careful shrink fitting of a straight sleeve, or the bottoming of the sleeve on a ledge made during preparation boring for the sleeve. Either way the new sleeve is machined off flat at the deck (top of block) and seals against the head gasket. The only issue I know of is the marginal success found when trying to sleeve a cracked cylinder wall. The uneven pressure, cooling, and corrosion at the old crack cause problems. Machining the cylinder to waterjacket, and installing a "wet sleeve in an engine with cast in place cylinder walls is not done because the block depends on the compression strength of cylinder casting to resist internal forces and stress, including head bolt pressure.
Works for my customers in the past, and on things from aluminum briggs blocks, to rare or one off jewels that would be junk without a sleeve. Ive never seen a sleeve fail (except in a cracked block. Good sleeve repair makes old better than new sometimes, metal used by reputable sleeve manufacturers, often wears longer than cast iron. Lots-0-life, Jim Nicholson

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Tim Malin

09-06-2005 15:17:31




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 Re: Sleeves in reply to For Hugh MacKay from Jim , 08-28-2005 16:30:19  
Speaking of sleeves, three of my Tisco sleeves dropped right in on my block, and the fourth cracked. I have a professional working on it, so I haven't been able to see it, but he said it was a sleeve problem. Delays me three weeks. I wanted the tractor running for our show. How long away is the show? Three weeks.... little too close for comfort.



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El Toro

08-28-2005 18:22:44




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 Re: Sleeves in reply to For Hugh MacKay from Jim , 08-28-2005 16:30:19  
Hi Jim, I had a Chevy Vega with the aluminum block and the engine didn't last very long. I was discussing the problem and a man that worked in another area said his brother was sleeving those engines. I took the engine down to him and he
bored the block and installed new sleeves. It surprised me that GM didn't sleeve those engines.
The sleeved engine out wore the body and I sold it to a man that needed an engine. I heard they can sleeve those cub engines. Hal

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Hugh MacKay

08-28-2005 18:15:14




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 Re: Sleeves in reply to For Hugh MacKay from Jim , 08-28-2005 16:30:19  
Jim: Thanks for this, I had read a bit about this some years ago. Never did run across anyone using the technique. I tended to avoid non sleeved tractor engines, kind like the plague. I would never have owned that 504, if it hadn't come with a farm I bought.



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Loren Coffin

08-28-2005 22:06:01




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 Hugh, in reply to Hugh MacKay, 08-28-2005 18:15:14  
Glad you mentioned about the 504 not having sleeves. A buddy told me about one for sale near him but didn't know what model. I looked at it today, a 504 gas with 5800 hours. pass.



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