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Farmall h / m for handling round bales?

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freeman28139

08-25-2005 20:12:01




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Could anyone tell me how the h/m would do with round bales(4x4x5)? Have read the psi is low compared to modern tractors. I am a hobbiest and would want to be able to move bales with 3pt. spike and bush hog. Thanks in advance....




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dej(JED)

08-26-2005 11:31:15




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 Re: Farmall h / m for handling round bales? in reply to freeman28139, 08-25-2005 20:12:01  
I use a 1948 M all the time to move round bales with a 3 point rear spear. I never have any problems. They are in the 1200 pound range.



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Sand Flat Bob

08-26-2005 06:55:37




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 Re: Farmall h / m for handling round bales? in reply to freeman28139, 08-25-2005 20:12:01  
Simple cheap safe way to move round bales is to use a hay buggie. My neighbor hires round bales put up on his land. Moves them all with a home built hay buggie behind his pickup. Doesn't even own a tractor. Has been doing this for many years. If you don't want to build one, you can buy one for a little over $450 new. Check out the following comments:

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Have fun, stay safe,

Bob

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freeman28139

08-26-2005 05:34:31




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 Re: Farmall h / m for handling round bales? in reply to freeman28139, 08-25-2005 20:12:01  
I appreciate the info. We have a small farm and handle somewhere between 30 and 65 bales a year from the field. We do the bulk of the work with a MF135 w/Dunham Lear Loader and /or spike. I would more than likely pull a equip. trailer w/hay to and from field with the farmall, just didn"t want to buy something incapable. Have always been a fan of the older Farmalls and Popin Johns, the hand clutch turns me away from the JD since I will be doing some light work. We have a 49 Cub that has been rock solid for 56 years. There is something about the old tricycles that has always appealed to me. Thanks for your input.

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Allan in NE

08-26-2005 04:56:17




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 Re: Farmall h / m for handling round bales? in reply to freeman28139, 08-25-2005 20:12:01  
Freeman,

Like Rusty says, those old Hs and Ms will do about anything you ask of 'em.

Just be careful with the round bales, especially if you plan on using a spike. Those darned spikes just plain scare me.

Allan

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RustyFarmall

08-26-2005 04:45:10




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 Re: Farmall h / m for handling round bales? in reply to freeman28139, 08-25-2005 20:12:01  
The hydraulics on the two tractors are more than capable of lifting and carrying a large round bale. The rest of the tractor really won't lend itself very well to that application, I am not saying it cannot be done, but you would be much happier with a more modern tractor.



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freeman28139

08-26-2005 05:44:22




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 Re: Farmall h / m hydraulic specifications? in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-26-2005 04:45:10  
I have read there were two lift capacities, one at about 600 psi and one 800psi? I have also seen discussions about stage 1 and stage 2 mostly around the supers. Are these the same? What are the ratings on the four?



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Nat

08-26-2005 08:27:31




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 Re: Farmall h / m hydraulic specifications? in reply to freeman28139, 08-26-2005 05:44:22  
Original belly pumps were around 500psi. Later on they were upped to 750psi, and you could rebuild an original for the higher pressure. Odds are that the belly pump has been rebuilt at one point in the tractor's lifetime, so it's probably at 750psi if it's any good. Distributor-drive hydraulics, aka live hydraulics, are good for around 1000psi.

Real quick on the "Super" series tractors... The stages refer to the additional features added to the tractors as they gradually transitioned from the original Hs and Ms to the 300s and 400s, not just hydraulics.

Stage 1 was basically the same as the original, except they had higher horsepower engines, faster gears, and disk brakes.

Stage 2 added distributor-drive (live) hydraulics, external hydraulic reservoir, and moves the battery back under the seat.

Stage 3 added live PTO and torque amplifier. The "Stage 3 Super H" was never produced. It became the 300.

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gene b

08-26-2005 03:55:15




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 Re: Farmall h / m for handling round bales? in reply to freeman28139, 08-25-2005 20:12:01  
Just get a larger cycl diameter for more lifting power. Just remember these tractors werent built for carrying around huge wt on the back. Mite need some front wts. Depends on where you are going to move bales mud snow hills and distance are all things to consider.



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