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Low Hour 50 year -old tractors

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Leo S

08-23-2005 18:45:03




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I'd like your opinion about something. I am seeing more and more ads saying "parts from low-hour 1952 Farmall H" or "1949 Farmall M, real good shape, low-hour tractor". I get a real kick out of these ads. My opinion: You had better owned it for it's entire life, and wrote down how many hours it ran as you drove it to church each Sunday if you want to call a 50-plus year-old tractor that didn't come with an hour meter, a low-hour tractor. These machines were bought to work hard and feed a family. Although they were not normally abused, they were certainly WELL USED. I think it takes a lot of 'nads to call these hororable work-horses "low-hour" to try to make a buck. Just my opinion. your thoughts?

Leo S

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Hugh MacKay

08-24-2005 19:08:25




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 Re: Low Hour 50 year -old tractors in reply to Leo S, 08-23-2005 18:45:03  
Leo: The main work load of those old gas Farmalls, was quite quickly taken over by diesels in the 1960s. Farmers were looking for more fuel efficient hp, thus the old gas H, M, 300, etc. soon became the 2nd tractor, regelated to duty only in busy times of the year.

Just to give you an example, when my dad got his first haybine, the Farmall 300 burned 3 IMP. gallons of gas per hour on that job. Later the Farmalls 560D and 656D ran that same haybine much better and faster on 1 IMP. gallon of diesel per hour. Needless to say the 300 never saw a lot of haybine work after that.

I know a farmer had one diesel he worked year around. He had 5 or 6 Hs and 300s he used only in haying and manure spreading. Soon as those two jobs were done each year, he parked the gassers and removed batteries until next season.

Most folks marvel at how long the Hs and Ms have lasted. There is no mystery, newer, lighter and much improved diesels with 3 point hitch made them obsolete. The 50s, 60s and 70s were also relatively good economic times down on the farm. Wasn't very hard to justify going out and buying that new diesel. You never traded of the H, M, 300, etc. Great to have around just as a spare. Yes, I for one believe there is an unusual high percentage of Hs and Ms with low hours. Much the same is happening today with 100hp+ two wheel drive tractors, 4x4 is rendering them obsolete.

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the tractor vet

08-24-2005 16:29:04




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 Re: Low Hour 50 year -old tractors in reply to Leo S, 08-23-2005 18:45:03  
I have one customer that has a S/MTA that he bought new when he got out of the army and he still farms with it as it is his main tractor does al;l the plowen disken mowen some of the baling and hauls all the cow poop and it has 12573 hours on it at the last service that i did on it a mounth ago and i would have to say that is a low hour S/MTA as i have worked on 1086's that have more then that on them and they are in worse shape . Now my buddys 706 is fairly low hour with 4300 on it and it is a 65 . Oh BTW the S/MTA has and hour meter on it .

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Leo S

08-24-2005 18:01:54




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 Re: Low Hour 50 year -old tractors in reply to the tractor vet, 08-24-2005 16:29:04  
There you go, like I said, he boought it new and has an hour meter to back it up....THAT is a NICE low-hour tractor..... ....But, That is ONE I now know of.



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Allan in NE

08-23-2005 19:02:07




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 Re: Low Hour 50 year -old tractors in reply to Leo S, 08-23-2005 18:45:03  
Leo,

Heck, maybe they are low-hour, relatively speaking-wise.

I've got a 55 year old H and the way it sounds, I'm pretty darned sure the ol' darlin' will run at least another 100 years. :>)

Allan

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Nebraska Cowman

08-23-2005 19:00:59




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 Re: Low Hour 50 year -old tractors in reply to Leo S, 08-23-2005 18:45:03  
I think it just means they may not be as compleatly worn out as some. It is a relative term and way overused. Once in a while I find a tractor that shows much less wear than normal. I would call that a "low houred" tractor.



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Steven@AZ

08-23-2005 18:51:34




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 Re: Low Hour 50 year -old tractors in reply to Leo S, 08-23-2005 18:45:03  
I agree with you. Unless they have some way of recording the amount of time it was run, call BS on them.

My H is low hour -- since I rebuilt it anyways and added an hour meter. Without a working hour meter no proof - and even then they can easily be disconnected...



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Jim Allen

08-23-2005 18:49:36




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 Re: Low Hour 50 year -old tractors in reply to Leo S, 08-23-2005 18:45:03  
Yeah, ask them to define, "low hours." Under 20,000? Under a million. Anyway, good point. Loins girded! Chasitity belt on, reversed!



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Dick Davis

08-24-2005 05:04:55




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 Re: Low Hour 50 year -old tractors in reply to Jim Allen, 08-23-2005 18:49:36  
You are all correct. But Cowman has a point too. What do you say about one of these barely 50 year olds that has clutch and brake pedals that push straight in - no shaft wear. Steering is tight, brake lock stays where you put it, saw tooth throttle is sharp, seat bushings permit straight up and down movement only, PTO shaft doesn't drift, U and sliding draw bars litttle or no wear ? If they haven't been completely rebuilt they are probably "low hour." The great IHC collector and manufactuer Kinze says he has an H that drives like brand new, I would bet he knows. My nickel Dick Davis

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