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Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M

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FishermanS

08-16-2005 10:47:03




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I read the post from larry dw and I have a few question that someone can hopefully help me with.

The M tractor I bought has a Farmhand loader similar to the one Allen posted, except mine has springs near the bucket. Allen also mention that its possible to break a tractor with these (did I understand correct or miss something)

How strong are these loaders and is it something I can lift buckets full of dirt or another M tractor that doesn't have tires off a trailers :)? I really don't know and have no desire to find out after its to late.

I posted a picture and tried to attach it- don't know if it will work.

Thank you for your comments and help.

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FishermanS

08-16-2005 12:48:27




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 Re: Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M in reply to FishermanS, 08-16-2005 10:47:03  
Thanks Fellas,

I will try and post a few more photos of the side that I have.

And no I don't want any heartaches, I appreaciate your help. Heartache...Huskers last year put me on the transplant list after receiving a defibulator for the 7-7 season.

One other question, the left side of the farmhand loader drips fluid and it the line runs inside the frame. Any suggustions?



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Allan in NE

08-16-2005 12:55:25




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 Re: Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M in reply to FishermanS, 08-16-2005 12:48:27  
Yes,

If it is bleeding out of that cylinder inside the frame, that is from your tilt cylinder, which lives in there.

Very easy to pull and re-seal. Be a good time to replace that cable too.

Allan



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RustyFarmall

08-16-2005 12:19:32




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 Re: Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M in reply to FishermanS, 08-16-2005 10:47:03  
It's not just the Farmhand loaders that will break your tractor, my dad broke his H in two using a McCormick #31 loader, and this loader was designed specifically for the Ms and Hs. You also need to know that my dad was one of the cautious tractor operators I have ever known, so I know it wasn't abuse that broke the tractor. I have seen several pictures of Hs broke in two, and the loaders in use were from various manufacturers. Keep those torque tube bolts tight, and keep pestering Allan on how to build those struts. Most of these old Farmalls have enough hydraulic power to allow you to pick up way more of a load than what the loader or tractor is rated for.Enjoy your new rig, pretty soon you will wonder how you ever got along without it.

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Allan in NE

08-16-2005 12:46:49




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 Re: Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-16-2005 12:19:32  
Hey Rusty,

I know I'm on a soap box, but it isn't just the Farmalls either. All tractors will break in two if enough pressure is applied.

Someone was talking a few months back about a 4020 John Deere split down the middle. UGH!

Allan



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RustyFarmall

08-16-2005 15:49:08




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 Re: Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M in reply to Allan in NE, 08-16-2005 12:46:49  
Allan, meant to mention that I know of a John Deere A broke in half also, so no, it isn't just the Farmalls.



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Allan in NE

08-16-2005 11:17:34




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 Re: Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M in reply to FishermanS, 08-16-2005 10:47:03  
Hi Guy,

Your loader is rated something like 2 ton to 27 feet (if I remember correctly).

Hope I'm not scarin' everybody; chances are it will last a lifetime and never cause you any grief.

However, it is just that I've seen a lot of broken tractors under these things and it is so darned easy to rid the loader of the problem by using a simple little strut.

Your tractor has the "old style" mount, which stops right in front of the rear axle and these mounts were re-designed after the breaking problem started showing up with these loaders.

If you could take a picture of that tractor from the side and still showing that underslung mount, I can show you how to build a bullet-proof brace to stop the breakage problem.

Just trying to save someone a little heartache,

Allan

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Allan in NE

08-16-2005 12:41:03




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 Re: Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M in reply to Allan in NE, 08-16-2005 11:17:34  
Pardon my poor artistic ability, but this is how I like to build 'em.

Out of 3/8" steel plate (the green part), build a roughly 10" triangular plate to bolt between the tractor's frame rail and the Farmhand's strut arm.

Drill a hole in that rear mount and run a piece of 3/4" or 1" threaded rod (blue in the drawing) up to the plate and attach it such a way as too be able to tighten or put "tension" or "pull" from the front of the tractor to the rear.

This transfers the downward load pressure to a linear axis to the axles. Also, it helps eliviate the "twisting" effect pressure too.

Here's a drawing and a picture of the way I did my little H and the F-11 loader.

Allan

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fishermanS

08-16-2005 12:51:59




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 Re: Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M in reply to Allan in NE, 08-16-2005 12:41:03  
Thank you, I will get to work! and let you know how I do. Your arts fine, Pecasso will be calling.



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steveormary

08-16-2005 14:26:25




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 Re: Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M in reply to fishermanS, 08-16-2005 12:51:59  
fishermanS

We had F-10 loaders on a TE-20 and a TO-30. Same loader there.Then a Cockshutt 30 and later an M Farmall.Dad liked the Cockshutt but I preferred the Ferguson. Never had a tractor break in two. They are good tuff loaders. We stacked alot of hay and loaded out alot of poop.
You can lift more then the back end of the tractor will hold down. So be careful.

steveormary



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steveormary

08-16-2005 14:38:26




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 Re: Farmhand F10 loader on Farmall M in reply to steveormary, 08-16-2005 14:26:25  
OT fishermanS

What is this about the Huskers?? My scourse in Omaha seems to think they will do better this year.

steveormary



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