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IH 826 vs Chisel Plows

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Jim Allen

08-13-2005 18:38:34

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Anybody out there use a chisel plow on an 826? I farm on clay ground and have been shopping for a chisel plow. Depending on who you ask, the average chisel plow will take 10-15 PTO rated hp per shank. They do not appear to specify depth. I have found some good deals on 3-point chisel plows, some of them with more shanks than I can use, but it look like I can remove some shanks and reposition others. Bottom line, could the 826 pull a 7 or 8 shank chisel plow in clay without tearing it's guts out? I originally wanted a 5-shank, but somebody pointed out that it would be narrower than my wheel tracks (duh!). To bad the rating doen relate to drawbar HP, which would seem to be a more accurate way.

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K.B.-826

08-14-2005 20:55:42

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Re: IH 826 vs Chisel Plows in reply to Jim Allen, 08-13-2005 18:38:34

Jim, we don't do much chisel plowing, but ours is a 10 shank (it's actually a junk 11-shank with one broke off- not worth fixing), and it's all the 966 wants in Low 4th in corn ground. I haven't had it behind the 826 yet, but I have had it behind the 80 horsepower 786 and 3088, and it's too much for them, constant spinning out in Low 3rd. I've been looking for a good Glencoe high clearance 7-shank disk chisel for the corn ground, I think the 826 and 966 will have no problem with that.

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Tony lochard

08-14-2005 17:50:26

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Re: IH 826 vs Chisel Plows in reply to Jim Allen, 08-13-2005 18:38:34

I used a IH 560D with fluid& duals on a 7shank pull type chisel, 6 to7" deep at 4.5 to 5 mph in some clay& black ground.It made the old girl talk.Iwould run out of traction,before power,and it was just as wide as the tractor.So you should be able to pull a 7shank with a 826.

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Cliff Neubauer

08-14-2005 11:31:57

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Re: IH 826 vs Chisel Plows in reply to Jim Allen, 08-13-2005 18:38:34

It will all depend on how deep you want to pull it and your soild types. We are currently running an 11 shank Glencoe behind a 5488 or MX-240, before that we had a 7 shank DMI behind a 1086. The DMI started out as an 11 shank but we couldn't pull it so we dropped it to 7 shanks and spaced them out so corn stalks would feed through without plugging. The wider shank spacing will make the pull harder. I think a 5 shank would be a good place to start with an 826 if your wanting to run about 8" deep.

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wolfman

08-14-2005 08:42:27

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Re: IH 826 vs Chisel Plows in reply to Jim Allen, 08-13-2005 18:38:34

If it's an 826 gear drive, it's a hoss! Right there with an 806 & within 8 hp 0f an 856. With the 5 + in stroke, it'll lug. A little more tractor than a 4020 weight wise & comparable hp.

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Hugh MacKay

08-14-2005 05:02:58

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Re: IH 826 vs Chisel Plows in reply to Jim Allen, 08-13-2005 18:38:34

Jim: I never had much to do with a chisel plow, however I did briefly use my neighbors 11 shank behind my 1066 with duals. Must have been 1' spacing as it was just width of tractor with duals. Like some of the others said I think you will run out of traction before power. I had no problem with duals, but am sure I would have without as I never used chloride or weigths.

I see guys going with 5 shanks 2' apart and making 2 passes, in such a way that gives them one shank per foot. Seems like keeping that spacing accurate may be a pain. You would need to arange this with your wheel tread, as on second pass you will want tractor on solid soil.

I do something like this with my Farmall 130 in my garden, but only going about 6 to 8 inches deep. I have 3 shanks on a tool bar. My little tractor is on 52" wheel tread thus I have one shank in center and one in center of each wheel. I can set over roughly 1/2 of tractor each time giving me 13" tooth spacing. Not bad on my little garden, but not sure I'd want to tackle 10 acres.

The other factor I'm finding with this, I get much more effective tillage going once and then diagnol each way.

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Jimmy King

08-14-2005 04:34:05

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Re: IH 826 vs Chisel Plows in reply to Jim Allen, 08-13-2005 18:38:34

I pulled a 10 tooth pull type with a 756D Traction was my big problem. I could go 6 or 7 inches first time over then cross it go 9 or 10 inches. I had a 3 point first prefer a pull type also you want a high clearence.

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the tractor vet

08-13-2005 21:17:13

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Re: IH 826 vs Chisel Plows in reply to Jim Allen, 08-13-2005 18:38:34

You would be better off with a five shank as a 826 does not have the snuff as a 806 or a 856 and in clay ground it will be enough and you realy want to run at 6 or 7 mph . Now i am not sure on how deep you want to go but i like to get them down around 12 inches for a reg.chisel and if i go to a deep till chisel then all i can do is pull three with the 806 and in 1st high it is all i want on her .

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Ksfarmmer

08-13-2005 20:30:54

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Re: IH 826 vs Chisel Plows in reply to Jim Allen, 08-13-2005 18:38:34

The best I recall we pulled a 10 foot chisel plow with our 806, which I assume is comparable HP to the 856, probably even less since it was an earlier tractor. The 806 handled it fine, also pulling an anhydrous ammonia tank. Don"t remember how many shanks it had, but seems like they were roughly 1 foot apart.

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Ksfarmmer

08-13-2005 20:30:47

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Re: IH 826 vs Chisel Plows in reply to Jim Allen, 08-13-2005 18:38:34

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RustyFarmall

08-13-2005 18:52:22

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Re: IH 826 vs Chisel Plows in reply to Jim Allen, 08-13-2005 18:38:34

I pulled a 13 foot 3 point chisel with my 856, basically the same tractor as your 826. I had to install a set of dual tires, tried it once with the singles and all I did was spin. The duals made a world of difference. I had a combination of heavy clay and good black dirt.

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