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Farmall Super C Timing

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Barry Huff

08-09-2005 09:58:13




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Hello, Hoping someone can help me with a question. I have a 1954 Farmall Super C that I want to check and set the timing. I have the original manual and the picture is not very clear. I have found the DC 14 line on the front of the Flywheel. That took a while. But my question is what do you line this DC 14 up with. The picture in the book is terrible. I have the hand hole cover on the bottom of the Bell Housing removed and assume that you shine the timing light through the bottom Bell Housing. On the front (Engine) side of the bell housing there is a half round sheet metal cover that is bolted in place. There are three stamped marks in this cover. One that is in the middle and straight down and then one on each side of it at about 60 degrees. Does anyone know what pointer to line the DC 14 mark on the flywheel up with ??? Also once I find the mark at what speed should I be running (1/4 or half or more throttle) to time it properly. Should the tractor be warmed up for a good period of time first. Thanks for any help

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El Toro

08-09-2005 11:10:14




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 Re: Farmall Super C Timing in reply to Barry Huff, 08-09-2005 09:58:13  
Since you have that timing light I would use it.
Hook your light to the battery and plug lead to No1 plug near the radiator. Start the engine and let it warm up for a few minutes, then let it idle. Set your brakes and align DC1-4 mark with the little metal tab on the clutch housing cover.
If this is off you will need to move the distributor or mag to align the flywheel timing mark with the tab. I would chalk that timing mark on the flywheel to view it better. Hal

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scotty

08-09-2005 10:24:05




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 Re: Farmall Super C Timing in reply to Barry Huff, 08-09-2005 09:58:13  
Barry, Start by putting the timing light back in your toolbox! You dont need it.
Now that you have found the line on your flywheel, remove your sparkplugs and have a friend hand crank your motor slowly while you have your finger over the #1 plug hole. When you feel pressure coming out you are on your compression stroke.Loosen the bolts on your magneto and rotate the top of the mag towards the motor. Crank the engine slowly until your line on the flywheel lines up with the middle line on the dust cover. It will help to use a white marking pen on that flywheel line. Now, rotate the mag until you hear the impulse coupling snap and tighten in that position. Remove your cap on the mag and your rotor should be in the 2 oclock position. Thats it. Good luck!

scotty

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Barry Huff

08-09-2005 11:09:07




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 Re: Farmall Super C Timing in reply to scotty, 08-09-2005 10:24:05  
Thanks Scotty,

I have a few more questions. My Super C does not have a magneto. Would your procedure still be the same ? Can I use a timing light and get the same results ? In other words if I do it the way you said and then checked it with my timing light would I then see the DC 14 line up with the straight down line in the middle of the sheet metal dust cover. Also if I look at this mark with the timing light at different idle speeds, will the DC 14 line be in different locations or would it always be lined up with the line stamp pointing down in the dust cover. I am trying to learn. Thanks

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CNKS

08-09-2005 17:14:30




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 Re: Farmall Super C Timing in reply to Barry Huff, 08-09-2005 11:09:07  
You don't need the timing light -- With the marks lined up as noted previously, retard the distributer by rotating about 30 degrees counter clockwise as viewed from the rear. Pull the coil wire out of the distributer cap and hold it close to the primary terminal, that is the nut on the side of the distributer just in front of the cap, then rotate the distributer clockwise until you get a spark. Or, forget all this, start the tractor, loosen the hold down clamps and advance or retard the distributer until you get maximum rpm. You will probably need to do that anyway once you have it timed with the engine off, so why bother? The other procedures are mostly for when you have the dist/mag off, have rotated the engine and you want to reinstall.

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Peabody

08-09-2005 11:25:45




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 Re: Farmall Super C Timing in reply to Barry Huff, 08-09-2005 11:09:07  
That"s sort of a two-man job trying to do that with a timing light. Once I had the flywheel mark lined up (yes, with the center straight down mark on the dust cover),I would rather forget the light and adjust the distributor by feel,listening to the engine and determining when it is running the smoothest. For me, that"s timed good enough.



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scotty

08-09-2005 11:22:13




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 Re: Farmall Super C Timing in reply to Barry Huff, 08-09-2005 11:09:07  
Barry, Yes,I believe at idle you should be at the middle mark. I have used timing lights before but not on any of my old tractors. That doesnt mean it cant be done.

scotty



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