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1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts out

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Brent in IA

07-17-2005 07:06:31




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I just acquired a 1951 Farmall Cub for my brother out in MT. It came with a Woods mower, but the previous owner had never had it on because he put a back blade on it instead. Well, I have a couple weeks before my brother shows up to claim his Cub and I told him I would get the mower mounted for him (and tested weekly on our lawn of course...). My problem is figuring out how this thing mounts in the rear, and if I have the correct brackets to do so.

I found an owner's manual online (I think it's a Woods 59-C mower) but it is very vague on how to bolt the rear of the mower to the tractor, and the one illustration not clear at all.

I posted a photo of the tractor in the photo gallery, and hopefully the image of the underside of the tractor and the mower bracket will appear here if I did it right, otherwise that is posted in the implement gallery. The previous owner hooked up a rear blade to the rear lift so I know that will need to be removed, but I am not sure if I have the right attachment points/brackets on the tractor itself.

Any help or pictures of other Cub/Mower mounts would be helpful.

Thanks!

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Rudi

07-17-2005 14:13:52




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Brent in IA, 07-17-2005 07:06:31  
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Brent:

The Woods, Danco manuals are on the Cub Manual Server.

Link is below.

You got to cut and paste it though...

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Brent in IA

07-17-2005 07:09:45




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Brent in IA, 07-17-2005 07:06:31  
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Here is a picture of the tractor. Previous owner was a machinist, can't believe the awesome construction & details on the loader he fabricated.

By the way, there is no grill on the tractor right now, but I see no holes to attach one. How do the attach and where can I get one?

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Nat

07-17-2005 08:30:16




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Brent in IA, 07-17-2005 07:09:45  
You need to completely remove the back blade, drawbar and all its bracketry from the rear final drive castings to mount the mower. Then it's pretty obvious where it goes.

Reproduction and original grilles are available from many tractor salvage yards.

That's a Danco/IH C3 mower, not a Woods.

Be careful with that loader. It looks like it's only mounted to the middle of the tractor. With all the leverage that loader has, it could easily break that tractor in half.

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Brent in IA

07-17-2005 11:49:20




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Nat, 07-17-2005 08:30:16  
Thanks again Nat, you are right about it being a C3 not a Woods. The Woods shield and Woods belt made me (and what the previous owner told me) think it must be Woods.

I got the thing mounted fine, now I just have to figure out how to keep the belt from jumping off! If anyone has any tips I'd sure be happy to listen.



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Brent in IA

07-17-2005 08:35:39




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Nat, 07-17-2005 08:30:16  
Thanks for the tip on ID'ing the mower. It came with a PTO shield that is painted with Woods logo still, however that may be a shield from another mower.

I looked at the mounting too, but with the round rear axle couldn't figure a good place to attache rear braces to. Have any suggestions? This is my first "Cub experience" as have H, M, 560 now.



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Nat

07-17-2005 08:47:08




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Brent in IA, 07-17-2005 08:35:39  
"round rear axle" Huh???

Once you get that back blade off, it's a matter of four bolts to mount the mower to the final drives.



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Brent in IA

07-17-2005 09:14:21




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Nat, 07-17-2005 08:47:08  
Oops...sorry for the unclear reply to the last post. The "round rear axle" comment referred to putting extra mounts on to reinforce the loader and spread the weight/forces, not to mounting the mower.



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George Willer

07-17-2005 09:46:02




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Brent in IA, 07-17-2005 09:14:21  
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Brent,

Where the tractor WILL break is where the radiator tank bolts to the engine. Breakage at this point is common even without loaders. With a loader mounted as this one is is clearly a disaster waiting to happen. The loaders that were mildly successful (it took them longer to break the tractor) had a sub frame to take some of the load off the weak point. Even they broke Cubs because of the load on the weak point from the wheel hitting obstacles. GET THAT THING OFF THE TRACTOR BEFORE THE ENGINE IS RUINED!!!

I'm not sure, but I suspect that mower was never intended for a regular F-Cub. It looks to me like a mounting for a Lo-Boy.

George Willer

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Brent in IA

07-17-2005 07:12:29




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Brent in IA, 07-17-2005 07:09:45  
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Here is a full view of the mower. I figured out most of it, just need help getting the rear attached to the tractor.



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Jim Becker

07-17-2005 08:55:01




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Brent in IA, 07-17-2005 07:12:29  
I think you need to rotate the rear bracket forward about 90 degrees. Then bolt it to the tractor using the 2 lower holes on the final drive housing (same ones that hold the drawbar).



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El Toro

07-17-2005 07:53:58




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Brent in IA, 07-17-2005 07:12:29  
It looks like your mower brackets shown in your mower picture will attach to the tractor as shown
in Biddog's picture. Hal



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Bigdog

07-17-2005 07:39:21




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Brent in IA, 07-17-2005 07:12:29  
Once you remove the other brackets you will see a set of 3 implement mounting bosses at the front and rear of the final drive castings. They are in a triangular configuration. The rear brackets on the mower will attach to the two holes that are spaced vertically. The tractor's drawbar mounts to the rear set of holes, the mower should attach to the front set.



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Bigdog

07-17-2005 07:43:19




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 Re: 1951 Farmall Cub - Help needed figuring mounts in reply to Bigdog, 07-17-2005 07:39:21  
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This isn't a mower but it shows the attachment points for the mower bracket.



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