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43 H Too Rich ?? / will not start

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ChrisL

07-03-2005 07:57:30




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Ignition all new components expect for the plugs & wires – (yesterday ran fine) the engine will start for about 20 secs then dies and will not start again - I think the plugs are getting too wet and will not fire until dry –

any suggestions will have reduce my stress level just about now --- why I did not buy that little compact tractor for $25gs – I am starting to wonder.




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james sexton

07-03-2005 20:47:01




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 Re: 43 H Too Rich ?? / will not start in reply to ChrisL, 07-03-2005 07:57:30  
Rust collects in the fuel tank, flows down the filter bowl, into the carb, the flow from the tank to the carb may be fine, however the rust that can collect in the jets, sticking open the float, etc. may cause flooding, gas dripping from the bottom of the carb. and sometimes a little tap on the carb will jar the rust flake loose.
And it does take a little time getting to know the old girl, some of them are like women, slow to come to the boil.

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Leroy

07-03-2005 14:02:49




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 Re: 43 H Too Rich ?? / will not start in reply to ChrisL, 07-03-2005 07:57:30  
Your tractor came from factory with a mag and was not hooked up to the 6 volt positive ground electricity, to shut off when you pushed in in the switch it shorted the mag and that is how it shut it off, if you have a distributator then it has been changed over



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ChrisL

07-03-2005 11:34:00




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 Re: 43 H Too Rich ?? / will not start in reply to ChrisL, 07-03-2005 07:57:30  
I guess you just have to go thru initiation – so yesterday I installed new coil, points, condenser, cap and rotor – thinking I was going to have (from now on) a good running tractor – well today when the old gal just said…nope all that loving care yesterday is just not enough

so pocking around most of today – I finally just held on to the end of one of the plugs wires and sure nuf I found out there was sure a good start that started me OK ----finally after tracing fuel getting to the carb ----I did a little tap tap on the side of the carb and there she go lited right off ---now hopefully one last question for a while anyway – this probably means a little stuck float needle right


THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE HELP

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CNKS

07-03-2005 10:46:26




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 Re: 43 H Too Rich ?? / will not start in reply to ChrisL, 07-03-2005 07:57:30  
That little 25K compact has about half the usable power of your H. The others are correct, start with no choke, as any letter series will flood almost immediately. You need the throttle maybe 1/3 above idle, so that it has just enough rpm's to keep running. When it starts, immediately close the choke 1/3 to 1/2 and it will keep running, then adjust as needed.



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CNKS

07-03-2005 10:49:53




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 Re: 43 H Too Rich ?? / will not start in reply to CNKS, 07-03-2005 10:46:26  
Also, if it starts and runs for 20 seconds, then dies, you may have a fuel flow problem. If I can keep mine running for 5 seconds, I figure I have it made. Take the fuel line loose at the carb and see if you have a steady flow of gas.



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Allan in NE

07-03-2005 08:13:44




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 Re: 43 H Too Rich ?? / will not start in reply to ChrisL, 07-03-2005 07:57:30  
Chris,

Are you talking about on a cold start? If so, that is the way Hs are.

Pull your throttle about 2/3 of the way open. Hit the starter with NO CHOKE. Then, after the engine starts, it will try to sputter and die like you say.

When she begins to sputter, feather that choke on/off quickly a few times until she straightens back out.

Hs just don't like a lot of choke.

Also, they are more of a tractor than that $25K compact could ever hope to be.

Allan

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Allan in NE

07-03-2005 08:39:35




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 Re: 43 H Too Rich ?? / will not start in reply to Allan in NE, 07-03-2005 08:13:44  
It'll probably take a few times for you to get the "feel" of "catching" that sputtering engine before it dies, but they all are that way.

I never use the choke at the first crank, even in the dead of winter. Those Hs just have their own way of starting. :>)

Allan



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ChrisL

07-03-2005 08:23:35




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 Re: 43 H Too Rich ?? / will not start in reply to Allan in NE, 07-03-2005 08:13:44  
Thanks Allan, that exactly what I am talking about



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riverbend

07-03-2005 08:51:53




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 Re: 43 H Too Rich ?? / will not start in reply to ChrisL, 07-03-2005 08:23:35  
There are other ways of starting an H.

In the summer, mine likes the throttle about one notch above idle. It starts and runs immedeately. The idea of starting any engine at 2/3 throttle makes my hair stand on end. If you look at your oil pressure gauge, it does not move as soon as the engine starts...

If the engine is flooding, fuel will drip out of the bottom of the carb. If you are getting fuel dripping, check to see that the choke plate is actually open, sometimes the lever can be loose on the shaft.

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