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super A generator wiring

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Phil W in Michi

06-28-2005 19:03:01




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Just bought a new '54 super A. The generator is not charging. I removed it and found only one red wire coming from the generator (actually from the box on top of the generator). There was a blue wire cut and tied around the red wire down a little ways but not connected to anything. Does anyone have a wiring diagram for this tractor? Is there supposed to be only one wire coming from the 6 volt generator?

Thanks for looking.

Phil

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Raw

06-29-2005 01:15:25




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 Re: super A generator wiring in reply to Phil W in Michigan, 06-28-2005 19:03:01  
hi, been working on my Farmall B today and found a wiring diagram should be the same, try going to this site >Link
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Hugh MacKay

06-29-2005 03:29:13




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 Re: super A generator wiring in reply to Raw, 06-29-2005 01:15:25  
Raw: I rather doubt B will be the same as 1954 SA. Late model Super A's were for the most part distributor ignition with a voltage regulator.



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Raw

06-29-2005 05:52:11




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 Re: super A generator wiring in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-29-2005 03:29:13  
Hugh, i do know that an A & B are the same as far as basic tractor goes and do think the super A should have the same basics. the wiring you discribe sounds the same as mine. just look at that site and the diagram it should help.
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Hugh MacKay

06-28-2005 19:35:13




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 Re: super A generator wiring in reply to Phil W in Michigan, 06-28-2005 19:03:01  
Phil: Been awhile since mine were generator charging, so not going to be lot of help other than I can tell you, should be two wires to generator. If you can get yourself an original IH Farmall Super A operators manual, they contain an excellent wiring diagram for complete tractor. Be sure you get the manual for late model Super A, as early ones were different. Early Super A had cut out relay with 4 position light switch. Your tractor should have voltage regulator and light switch controls only lights thus has 3 position light switch.

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phil W in Michigan

06-29-2005 06:55:43




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 Re: super A generator wiring in reply to Hugh MacKay, 06-28-2005 19:35:13  
Thanks guys. I have the wiring diagram I think my tractor has a four position switch. Although, it might have a voltage regulator and I am not sure the switch is hooked up. Does anyone make a 12volt conversion kit for a super A?

Thanks again, for all your help. I have a manual on order...just hasn"t arrived yet.

Phil



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Hugh MacKay

06-29-2005 07:49:57




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 Re: super A generator wiring in reply to phil W in Michigan, 06-29-2005 06:55:43  
Phil: I have 3 conversions here, 1953 SA, 130 and 140. These tractors are very easy to convert. I just welded a flat plate on top of current generator mount, then a couple of tabs for mounting Delco alternator. The pulley I use is double V off the older GM V8 engines. Use the V farterest from alternator. This allows you to set alternator lower and tuck it in closer to engine block, makes for a neater looking job.

My Super A is alternator and is still 6 volt. You can change the built in regulator on the Delco alternator for either 6 volt or 12 volt. This requires no change on tractor. You will have an extra wire in harness, I use that for exciting alternator. I have a starter type push button switch on dash to excite alternator. With that no danger of leaving it on and draining battery when tractor is not running. I like this better than my 12 volt conversions as I have big amperage charging and still 6 volt.

If you go to 12 volt then you must change the lights, change coil or add a resistor, then add devices for exciting alternator, etc. Under Articles go to article by Bob M and his wiring diagrams. He will be very helpful should you need it.

On my 130 and 140, I needed new lights so I just bought 12 volt. I changed my coils to 12 volt with built in resistor. Only good source for those I've found is CaseIH. I still use the push button on these for exciting the alternator. I tried the light as in Bob's diagram. I couldn't get the exact light Bob called for thus I had poor success. If I can be of any more help, my e mail is exposed. Remember also, I may not be far away, just north of Strathroy ON if you want to have a look at my tractors.

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