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Triker

06-22-2005 05:22:38




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I am excited, I found the 5" shaft for the belly pump that runs between the tranny and the pump. The pump is working like a charm now. My question today is has anyone altered the muffler on a H to bend it over on its side. I have some low trees and was thinking maybe I could have a pipebender make me an elbow so the stack doesnt hit the low trees. Maybe have it lie close to the top of the tractor. Just a goofy thought I had when I couldnt sleep last night. Thanks.

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Herb In Tx

06-22-2005 14:18:58




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 Re: H Muffler in reply to Triker, 06-22-2005 05:22:38  
I agree with Dave I would start me a brush pile. From all the limbs you cut that wont clear the tractor or cause the operator to have to contort into un-natural and there by unsafe positions on the tractor seat in front of a running shreader that wont care if it has weeds or flesh run under it.



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EricB

06-22-2005 12:11:41




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 Re: H Muffler in reply to Triker, 06-22-2005 05:22:38  
Ya gotta love this board!
The picture I got in my mind was to simply pipe the exhaust back to the driver. He/she could suck it in and blow it out you know where.
Sorry to be so sarcastic but it just caught me that way.



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Janicholson

06-22-2005 08:43:59




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 Re: H Muffler in reply to Triker, 06-22-2005 05:22:38  
All suggestions so far are good, take your pick.
Here is mine: have a muffler shop make a 90deg. sweep bend of minimum radius (usually 8" for pipe as big as 2.375" which is the actual O.D. of the exhaust pipe stack) this should be made from 2.375 O.D. muffler pipe. Next have one end expanded to fit the O.D. of the exh. pipe for a depth of 2-1/2".

I would use a very short automotive oval muffler, Or if bucks are not an issue, a welded stainless oval auto muffler. I would aim the muffler toward the driver with the off set clearing the air intake. then use an additional 90 bend to direc the exhaust down and to the left. I would build a support for the end to eliminate breakage of the manifold, or stressing of the threads on the existing pipe (usually an issue at some point anyway) my stout support {maybe chanel style fence post material} would bolt only to the frame rail, or other existing holes (never to the hood, or other sheet metal). It would be off set to clear all other parts and sheetmetal to stop rattles and wear.

My design deflects limbs up and off of the air cleaner, and catches fewer of them. It also will be far enough off of the hood to avoid scorching, and last it will be very quiet(which I and my neighbors like). There is also no need for a rain cap. Good luck with the project, let me know your solution. Jim Nicholson

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Triker

06-22-2005 06:24:54




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 Re: H Muffler in reply to Triker, 06-22-2005 05:22:38  
All of you guys gals are great! I am new to Farmalls and the advice and suggestions on here are priceless. Thanks for all your help!



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Paul in Mich

06-22-2005 06:10:04




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 Re: H Muffler in reply to Triker, 06-22-2005 05:22:38  
Triker, It is certainly possible to route the exhaust differently, such as you suggest, however, one thing to remember is that if you are concerned about catching the muffler on low hanging branches or tree limbs, that it may also catch and damage your air cleaner. Much better to replace a muffler than to have to replace a ripped off or severly damaged air cleaner. my suggestion would be that the exhaust system, regardless of whether you divert it horizontally or shorten it vertically, that you keep it higher than the air cleaner. That said, there is nothing to say that you cant remove the existing air cleaner system and install a dry air filter below the hood surface.

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Bob M

06-22-2005 06:06:34




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 Re: H Muffler in reply to Triker, 06-22-2005 05:22:38  
A few possibilities:

1 – Simply run without a muffler. Unless you’re working the tractor hard the exhaust bark will tolerable. However hearing protection is still recommended. Downside is depending on the wind and direction of travel you will often be breathing exhaust fumes.

2 – The exhaust stack is a standard 2” iron pipe nipple. Simple matter to thread the outlet end of the nipple (see your local plumber and borrow his 2” NPT die). Then screw a 2” 90 deg elbow to the exhaust stack, then a second nipple into the elbow and finally the muffler pointing forward. Good idea to support the outlet end of the muffler over the radiator. Also if you have a nice paint job, a heat shield to protect the hood is a good idea (a piece of 6” galvanized stove pipe cut in half lengthwise and wired beneath the body of the muffler works nice). I've seen this done on a couple different H's - works nice and doesn't even look too bad.

3 – Swap the existing manifold for one from an O-4, OS-4, 300/350 utility, etc. These provide the exhaust outlet angled down at the front of the engine – exhaust exits over the governor housing. Problem is finding one in good shape. They’re not very common, and I doubt these manifolds are available today either from CIH or aftermarket.

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Andy Martin

06-22-2005 05:42:57




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 Re: H Muffler in reply to Triker, 06-22-2005 05:22:38  
An H is quiet enough you can get by with a short pipe and rain cap. Aim the cap to the left to send the exhaust away from you.



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Nat

06-22-2005 05:39:33




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 Re: H Muffler in reply to Triker, 06-22-2005 05:22:38  
If you look around, you'll see tractors with mufflers altered like that on a regular basis. It's certainly not unheard of. I've seen ones where the muffler was completely relocated down next to the frame rail.

Just be aware that laying the muffler down close to the hood will cause any paint near the muffler to get burned. If you've got a nice paint job, I wouldn't recommend it. Also, don't point it towards yourself.

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Dave

06-22-2005 07:29:55




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 Re: H Muffler in reply to Nat, 06-22-2005 05:39:33  
If a branch is low enouph to knock a muffler off,wouldn"t it be low enouph to knock the driver off too?just a wondering thought.



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