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Farmall M runs and dies update. . .how to clean fu

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nositri

06-16-2005 15:33:05




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I traced the fuel problem all the way up to the tank. I took the sediment bowl off and no fuel will come out of the tank. Something is lodged inside the sediment bowl inlet that was sucked in from the gas tank. . .it could just be so much dirt and sludge clogging it up. Now the next step would be recleaning all the lines again and cleaning out the fuel tank. What is the easiest method of cleaning out the tank before putting some fuel tank liner in it.

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Wayne Swenson

06-17-2005 09:16:13




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 Re: Farmall M runs and dies update. . .how to clea in reply to nositri, 06-16-2005 15:33:05  
I would suggest using a couple handfulls of hex nuts & lockwashers for an abrasive medium. You can get them out with a magnet later and not have more dirt & sandy material in the tank.
Several suggestions below on how to shake the takn. Take the sediment valve & grind a small groove in the pipe that extends into the tank so you can wrap a "sock" of metal screening around the pipe and wire it in place. No more large chunks of garbage into the system & the sediment bowl will trap the rest.
When the tank is thoroughly clean you can also use a tank liner to seal any minute leaks.

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Andy Martin

06-17-2005 05:20:11




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 Re: Farmall M runs and dies update. . .how to clea in reply to nositri, 06-16-2005 15:33:05  
Your problem sounds common.

If you did not unscrew the sediment bowl, do that and clean out the inlet. You can do this with a full tank of gas. Since the flow path is offset you cannot push a wire through from the bottom.

As you unscrew it, you will find out if the bottom of the tank is plugged by how the gas rushes out. Have a plug handy to screw in while you clean the bowl housing. You won't lose more than a quart of gas (which, by the way, will seem like a lot).

It is probably just a little trash in the inlet to the sediment bowl. Or the gasket could be dislodged on the shutoff valve. It has a back seat to seal when the valve is wide open and this can come off. I've had this happen and plug up the flow path.

If you are seeing trash come out while you are putting the plug in, you may want to drain the tank out the open hole. This makes a big mess, but I hope you understand there is a certain hazard to draining gas, out in the open on a gravel drive is a good place. Wear rubber gloves if you are concerned with getting gas on your skin. Flush the spilled gas on the tractor with water and let it dry and you are OK to start it. I've had to do this in the hay field and use my water jug to flush so it doesn't take a lot of water.

When it is all clean and back together, put an inline fuel filter on to keep more trash out of your carburetor. You may have to repeat the inlet cleaning a few times, but I have done this procedure many times on many tractors and have never taken a tank off to clean. I also have never had to replace the inline filter. Most of the junk gets in the bowl. The only major problem I had was leaves in the tank. My hay hand finally admitted maybe somebody left the top off a gas can and got leaves in it. Maybe.

The best way I have found to clean a tank is slosh gas while you are driving. Tell you rwife you have to go clean the tank. Drive it several time sper week. It is a pleasant repair job. Regular use is the best remedy. Keep running the gas through and you need no liner to flake off later.

A word to the wise:

The best way to screw up a fuel tank is to check the level with a stick. You get fired around my place for that.

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Nat

06-17-2005 07:13:26




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 Re: Farmall M runs and dies update. . .how to clea in reply to Andy Martin, 06-17-2005 05:20:11  
Dunno about you Andy, but I'd be looking for something to catch the gas rather than let up to 17 gallons pour out all over the ground... Environmental impact? Probably minimal, but when gas is over $2.25 a gallon, the walletal impact can be a natural disaster in and of itself.



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Dave in CT

06-16-2005 20:46:19




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 Re: Farmall M runs and dies update. . .how to clea in reply to nositri, 06-16-2005 15:33:05  
I've used a couple quarts of pea-sized gravel with 1/4 tank of fluid - I guess water would be fine but I used gas - sloshed it around for about ten minutes. I did this by hand and don't recommend it. If you can rig a second temporary tank, I've seen posts that recommend jacking up the tractor, strapping the tank to one of the rear wheels and then running the tractor in 1st gear at low idle. I wouldn't do this _too_ long before checking how it's going. Then coat it with liner, if you choose.

You can also try a quick fix of getting in there with a wire brush and scrub off the rough flakes, wave a 2" diameter magnet on the end of a clothes-hanger wire over the floor, rinse and leave the magnet in the tank near the outlet port. I did this three years ago on a moderately-rusted tank and haven't had a clogging problem since. Every year, I pull the magnet out (snag the eye-bolt I put through it with a clothes-hanger hook) and clean off the flakes it has caught. I put in an in-line filter but that hasn't needed changing yet.

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jeffcat

06-16-2005 19:52:55




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 Re: Farmall M runs and dies update. . .how to clea in reply to nositri, 06-16-2005 15:33:05  
Well one of the neighbors friends came up with this one for smaller tanks, and it sounds like -I guess it will work. With the tank out of the tractor- wedge it in an old style drum type cement mixer- Hold on a minute. This is going to work like a rock tumbler. Put a few hands full of sand in the tank and about 1/4 full of water. Wedge it in real well and SLOW speed mix the unit. I have cleaned chiansaw tanks and kerosene lamps with sand and water. Did a metal gas can this spring; it works very well. Wash clean and let dry in hot sun. Coat with tank sealer. Now go back and read this again and stop laughing> It makes sense and Like I said it does work with the small tanks. If you can secure the tank good and tight in the drum of the mixer it should clean it with the sand as a scrub agent. Give it a try. Jeffcat

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Dave_Id

06-16-2005 15:50:45




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 Re: Farmall M runs and dies update. . .how to clea in reply to nositri, 06-16-2005 15:33:05  
You can check the archives on this question because I remember lots of discussions on it. The best I"ve heard was to put some chain in the tank and shake it around to break loose most of the rust. Take a water hose and flush out as much of the crap as possible. Then drop a towel in there and get the rest.



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Nebraska Cowman

06-16-2005 15:42:37




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 Re: Farmall M runs and dies update. . .how to clea in reply to nositri, 06-16-2005 15:33:05  
the easiest way is to stuff an old shirt or something in the tank and poke it around for a while then fish it out. then rinse a lttle and try it. you might want to unscrew the sedement bowl vave assmembly as the pipe sticks up in the tank an inch or two so you can't get it all drained. There is a baffle in the tank that you can't get behind no matter what so if it is realy bad you might have to get a different tank.

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