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why no frame on 230?

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Randy in Pa

05-28-2005 20:44:08




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Just curious. mine have been busted in two once a long time ago before I owned it, and welded back together. I would like to put a loader on the front to do light duty work around the property.

What if I ran some heavy iron from the rear axles to the bolt flanges on both sides of the engine for renforcement? Those bolt flanges got to be there for a reason.

I have two hydraulic valves behind the steering wheel. One runs the hitch. Could I rig up the other one for a loader with a trip bucket?

I was a job shop machinist for 17 years and raised in a mechanics garage, so riging stuff up comes pretty easy.

Any comments?

Randy

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Jimmy King

05-29-2005 06:14:45




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 Re: why no frame on 230? in reply to Randy in Pa, 05-28-2005 20:44:08  
We had two 230"s one had been broke twice from hitting groundhog holes the other was never broke. They were a great tractor on a mower, rake, two row cultivater, drill feding hay. were two light for a loader I think.



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Hugh MacKay

05-29-2005 03:06:28




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 Re: why no frame on 230? in reply to Randy in Pa, 05-28-2005 20:44:08  
Randy: Those tractors, ( C, SC, 200, 230 and 240 ) were designed for row crop work. Most of the unused threaded holes in front casting as well as torque tube were designed for mounting cultivators, planting and fertilizing equipment.

Problem came when these tractor became popular with other farmers. Livestock farmers loved these tractors, particularly small livestock farmers. They were economical to buy and also to operate. For the livestock farmer they would do just about every task he could ask of a tractor. They were capable of much heavier work than ever designed for. They did the farmers row crops, baled hay, spread manure and yes even loader work.

I know a farmer who when tractor was new, would bolt 1/2" plate from clutch housing to front casting. He would mount these plates using the threaded holes in those castings, esentially giving tractor the kind of strength through engine area as the larger Farmalls.

Some of the activity that broke these tractors was, loaders, towing was bad, a reckless guy towing you with another tractor would let chain come loose then not bother to tighten it gently again, probably 6' of loose chain and hits you at about 4mph. I'd be willing to bet this last one has broke more small tractors than loaders ever did.

I have never owned one but the smaller A, SA, 100, 130 and 140 have much the same castings. I have never broke one. There were a lot of these tractors in my area and a lot got broken. I know of one 200 that broke when kid let it run into a concrete wall to stop. (new driver) All other broken tractors I know of both sizes, A and C or their derivitives were broke towing them. So you see there were guys 50 years ago without much common sence. At least with big tractors they just broke the chain.

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Randy in Pa

05-29-2005 06:16:29




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 Re: why no frame on 230? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-29-2005 03:06:28  
Thanks Hugh, That was a great explaination. Lot of small livestock farms in these parts. To hilly for much else. Just about every family has lost someone or has an injury from rollover.

How can I get a high resolution photo of a 230 loader to fit a wide front? I all ready checked the archives.

Randy



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Nat

05-29-2005 09:52:30




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 Re: why no frame on 230? in reply to Randy in Pa, 05-29-2005 06:16:29  
This isn't the only place on the web with tractor pictures... Google and a little patience are your best friends.



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