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Super M M differences

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Robhkent

05-25-2005 05:57:03




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Does a super M have live hydaraulics and live PTO? Any other differences??
Thanks




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sammy the RED

05-25-2005 06:25:38




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 Re: Super M M differences in reply to Robhkent, 05-25-2005 05:57:03  
The Super M-TA was available with Independent PTO as a option.



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Nat

05-25-2005 06:23:30




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 Re: Super M M differences in reply to Robhkent, 05-25-2005 05:57:03  
Super M has disk brakes. M has band brakes, except for the very last 1952 Ms, which also had disk brakes because IH ran out of band brake parts at the factory.

Super M has more power.

Super M has faster gears.

Stage II Super Ms (mostly 1953 models) have live hydraulics, though "factory" live hydraulics can be retrofitted to earlier Super Ms and late Ms. Live hydraulics were optional, but were a popular option.

Super MTAs also have a TA and live PTO.

With the exception of the disk brakes, TA and live PTO, parts could be swapped from M to super and back with very little major mechanical work, so if you've got a "mutt" you may need to do some investigative work. There were also aftermarket disk brakes for regular Ms.

The tractor's serial number tag will be the final authority.

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sammy the RED

05-25-2005 06:28:21




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 Re: Super M M differences in reply to Nat, 05-25-2005 06:23:30  
Not all Super M-TA's have a TA or Independent PTO.



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Nat

05-25-2005 06:51:55




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 Re: Super M M differences in reply to sammy the RED, 05-25-2005 06:28:21  
They were popular options, mostly because unless you special ordered the tractor without, it came with them.



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captaink

05-25-2005 06:13:09




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 Re: Super M M differences in reply to Robhkent, 05-25-2005 05:57:03  
A Super M does not have a live PTO. The SMTA was the first tractor with the live PTO.

I believe that live hydraulics were an option on the super M.



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Robhkent

05-25-2005 08:15:43




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 Re: Super M M differences in reply to captaink, 05-25-2005 06:13:09  
Thanks for the help everyone, I have an M available, adding the live hydraulics wouln't be bad, but I do want the live PTO, talked with a guy a while ago who knows shere there is a SuperMTA for sale.... better call him

Rob



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forever red

05-25-2005 19:05:55




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 Re: Super M M differences in reply to Robhkent, 05-25-2005 08:15:43  
the narrow front super m - 450 also have the new style front end and SOME of he m's also have the. the old style the front ends go on like the rear rims with clamps and a stop. the new style has 3 bolts connecting the rims to the spindel. some poeple had problems with the front rims spinning around because the stop just got worn out on the old style.



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landlordlloyd

05-25-2005 23:03:58




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 Re: Super M M differences in reply to forever red, 05-25-2005 19:05:55  
i have a super m tractor are they rare and how much are they worth for the heck of it i dont want to sell it



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