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Lou

04-27-2005 12:02:58




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I was all excited about buying a IH model 56 planter in good condition for planting soybeans in 32 inch rows. Then a guy who deals in equipment says its not a good choice. Anyone have experience? Thanks Lou




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captaink

04-29-2005 10:47:49




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to Lou, 04-27-2005 12:02:58  
If you haven’t bought the 56 yet, consider a cyclo planter like a 400. It is basically the same planter except instead of the plates it uses a drum to meter the seed. Basically one soybean drum will plant all different sizes of seeds at the correct rate without having to change plates to compensate for different seed sizes. I’ve run both and prefer the cyclo. One hopper, one drum, same planter from that point on…On either planter I’d suggest the double disk opener (sorry Allen) rather than the shoe if you have any crop residue to get through.

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Hayshaker

04-27-2005 16:48:38




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to Lou, 04-27-2005 12:02:58  
56 Planter was a very good plate planter. The worst planter I had was a Deere 1300. It didn't do a bad job of planting but was a pain in the neck to clean out. I bought it originally just to plant beans as I had it set up for 15" beans. When I quit farming fultime, I kept it to plant the sweetcorn with the original 6 row units. It took longer to clean it out then planting.



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Michael Soldan

04-27-2005 15:15:32




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to Lou, 04-27-2005 12:02:58  
Lou I have a 56 and it is a great little planter, the guy you were speaking to likely never owned one.... Mike in Exeter Ontario



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JD @ Antique Acres

04-27-2005 13:09:40




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to Lou, 04-27-2005 12:02:58  
One thing I have been doing the last few years drilling beans is to cap every other drop and plant at a 14- 15 inch row. Recent years have had problems with disease ( white mold)in the narrow rows. Opening up the rows allows for more air movement in humid conditions which some diseases thrive in.



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arod

04-27-2005 13:08:40




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to Lou, 04-27-2005 12:02:58  
they drill them in kansas and nebraska. but they spray the heck out of them and walk them with weed hooks too.



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arod

04-27-2005 12:17:08




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to Lou, 04-27-2005 12:02:58  
Most fellas drill their soy beans



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Harold H

04-27-2005 12:54:40




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to arod, 04-27-2005 12:17:08  
Where are you talking about? Most all soybeans I am famaliar with are rowcrops.

Harold H



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RustyFarmall

04-27-2005 12:17:03




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to Lou, 04-27-2005 12:02:58  
Did he offer an opinion on why the #56 would not be a good choice? Was he just trying to sell you something from his lot?



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Lou

04-27-2005 12:22:02




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to RustyFarmall, 04-27-2005 12:17:03  
He implied they are hard on the seed and its difficult to control the depth ect. thanks Lou



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Lou

04-27-2005 12:44:25




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to Lou, 04-27-2005 12:22:02  
These are organic beans so you have to cultivate. Do you have an idea what a 56 is worth in good condition? Thanks again



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RustyFarmall

04-27-2005 12:38:03




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to Lou, 04-27-2005 12:22:02  
By todays standards he is probably right, but not too many years ago we all used similar planters for soybeans and we always raised a good crop. We also did not get too concerned about proper depth, seems like about 1/2 to 1 inch deep would be correct, and if you could see a few seeds laying on top of the ground then you knew it was just about right. For a few acres the #56 should work OK, If you are looking at several hundred acres then you would want something better, or like someone else said, plant with a drill.

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yeoman

04-27-2005 13:22:13




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to RustyFarmall, 04-27-2005 12:38:03  
At one time we grew more dry beans than any other farmer in NYS. We used the 56 planter because it was the most gentle and tender in handling the seed. We always got a good stand and way better than average yields. Your crop results are far more dependant on YOUR management practices than the color or model of your machinery. I have had the IH blowhard and JD plateless, but my choice, and the fellow I worked with (a very knowledgeable and capable fellow) is the 56. If you want better seed placement contol an IH 800 or 900 plate type would be my choice. "Different strokes for different folks". Best, Phil

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Lou

04-27-2005 13:34:08




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to yeoman, 04-27-2005 13:22:13  
I really appreciate the info, Im going to buy the 56. If anyone has specific about the right plates for organic soybeans ect id appreciate that. This is a great web site! Thanks



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riverbend

04-27-2005 17:06:37




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 Re: Excited about nothing in reply to Lou, 04-27-2005 13:34:08  
JD still offers depth bands for a lot of their older planters, you might check to see if IH offers something similar.



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