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1967-1972 International 444 with theBD154 Diesel e

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Keith Young

04-24-2005 06:28:57




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anyone know the proper way to set the valve lash on this engine?...my stepfather and i have had several so called "experts" try to set them for us and right now the thing doesnt have enough power to pull your hat off your head and it smokes like a freight train...the engine has been rebuilt and the head has been resurfaced...we are at our wits end trying to figure out what is wrong with it...any help would be greatly appreciated...you can reply to my email addy if youd like that way i dont have to go surfing thru numerous pages to find this post LOL

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Big Don

04-25-2005 06:47:01




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 Re: 1967-1972 International 444 with theBD154 Dies in reply to Keith Young, 04-24-2005 06:28:57  
Keith,
Here is a possible scenario for you. The mechanic removes the head from the engine, removes the injectors, and sends it to a machine shop to have the valves ground and be resurfaced. The machine shop removes the precups from the head to resurface and then doesn't put them back in. The mechanic installs the injectors and then puts the head on the tractor not realizing that the precups are not in the head. Result, very hard to start and excessive smoke. This is a rare situation but I have seen it happen. Check it out.
Don

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JB2

04-24-2005 09:23:23




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 Re: 1967-1972 International 444 with theBD154 Dies in reply to Keith Young, 04-24-2005 06:28:57  
Hi Jdemaris,

The sympton of smoking like a freight train would make me suspect the injection pump timing is to slow. It probably is real hard to start as well. When the engine is up to operating temp and injection pump is timed correctly it should start on the first revolution of the engine. If it kicks back on the starter it is timed to fast.

Good luck
JB2



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jdemaris

04-24-2005 07:13:22




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 Re: 1967-1972 International 444 with theBD154 Dies in reply to Keith Young, 04-24-2005 06:28:57  
Never experienced such a problem and I've worked on, and own, several IH tractors with the BD-144 and the BD-154 engines. They are all adjusted .020" hot for both intake and exhausts. So, I'm not sure what your problem is - but what makes you think it's the valve lash? You say the engine was rebuilt - well, to what extent? Is your valve timing correct, and fuel timing? And, you've checked all the injectors and the injection pump? The reality is, as long as there is some sort of valve clearance when it reaches operating temperature, it will run pretty good. To get technical, as long as any clearance exists, the valves will open and close sucessfully. The actual clearance, however, determines - to a degree - the exact valve timing. The reality is, being off a few thousanths one way or the other will not be noticeable. Sometimes, when attempting to tune an engine to get every bit of power possible, a feeler gauge is not used, and valve lash is adjusted by a degree wheel and dial-indicator. I can't imagine this being applied to a farm tractor though.

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