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Need advice installing Overrun Coupling on 140

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Gary(NC)

04-19-2005 16:59:20




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Hi All!

I've been reading here for a while but this is my first post. Recently bought a 140 to do gardening and some rough mowing. I'm brand new to tractors and may have questions that many of you will find funny. If I can get help I'm willing to take that.

I have a rotary cutter coming in the next week, so yesterday went to Tractor Supply and picked up an overrun coupling.

What I bought appears to be exactly like the one on this web page that I found by searching the archives for this board - "http://home.paonline.com/rmweber/COUPLNG.HTM".

I've looked and studied some and have questions and need reassurance that I have it right.

1. I got the 1 1/8 inch one (as opposed to 1 3/8) Is that right for the 140?

2. I've read somewhere about couplers that change the PTO from 1 1/8 to 1 3/8. Is that preferred? I did not know to ask, but now wonder what size the female end of the rotary cutter I'm getting will have (Howse brand ordered through Southern States).

3. I've cleaned the PTO on the tractor good but the coupling does not want to slide onto it. Should it slide on or will I have to tap it on? Should I put grease in the coupling before sliding it onto the PTO (I mean inside the female PTO fitting, of course I know I'll put grease in via the grease fittings...)?

3. The spring pin fits through the holes in the outer ring on the coupler (where the grease fittings screw in) but stops at the inner ring. I will have to tap it in, right?

Thanks for any and all help. I'm thrilled to have this tractor and am really looking forward to learning how to use and maintain it.

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Gary(NC)

04-20-2005 12:41:27




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 Re: Need advice installing Overrun Coupling on 140 in reply to Gary(NC), 04-19-2005 16:59:20  
Thanks for all the comments!

I went back this am and traded for a 1 3/8 and came home and installed it. All is good.



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T.B.W.

04-20-2005 03:21:53




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 Re: Need advice installing Overrun Coupling on 140 in reply to Gary(NC), 04-19-2005 16:59:20  
your tractor should have a 1 3/8 pto shaft. international went to that size in 1942. All the old ford tractors had the 1 1/8 shaft, thats why tractor supply hvae them in stock. Take it back and get a 1 3/8 X 1 3/8 and it will fit.



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scotty

04-20-2005 06:44:36




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 Re: Need advice installing Overrun Coupling on 140 in reply to T.B.W., 04-20-2005 03:21:53  
T.B.W., My 42 A has a 1 1/8" PTO shaft, must have been left over PTO unit from 41.

scotty



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Hayfarmer

04-19-2005 20:00:35




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 Re: Need advice installing Overrun Coupling on 140 in reply to Gary(NC), 04-19-2005 16:59:20  
I don't know what size PTO the 140 has, I would think it would be 1 3/8. You might check to see that splines are goon on your pto, sometimes they get a bit rough and will make the coupler go on hard. On the overriding coupler I have the roll pin goes through the hole as you mentioned and through the pto shaft. It must be tapped in to a point where the outer part of the coupler will turn without the inner part and pto turning. I didn't the first time I put mine on and it didn't work the way it should. Measure your PTO shaft on the 140 and get the right one. If it is 1 1/8 I would get the 1 1/8 to 1 3/8 adapter coupler as your rotry cutter will definitely be 1 3/8.

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CNKS

04-19-2005 17:51:54




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 Re: Need advice installing Overrun Coupling on 140 in reply to Gary(NC), 04-19-2005 16:59:20  
Answer to #1 is: you bought the wrong one.



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04-19-2005 17:40:38




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 Re: Need advice installing Overrun Coupling on 140 in reply to Gary(NC), 04-19-2005 16:59:20  
#1. 1-3/8" is the standard 540 PTO shaft. If your 140 has a 1-1/8" diameter PTO shaft then you got the right one.

#2. If you have a 1-3/8" PTO shaft on the 140 (easy to measure), then the 1-1/8" overrunning coupler won't fit, even if you tap it with a sledge hammer. You don't say if it won't fit at all, or starts then sticks. If it starts then sticks, it probably needs some grease on the PTO shaft, but just a little. Gobs don't help, and just make the mess that much bigger.

#3. You have to line up all the holes and tap it in, yes. It's a spring pin, and having it fall out would be kinda bad, so it needs to fit tight.

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Robert in NC

04-19-2005 17:14:37




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 Re: Need advice installing Overrun Coupling on 140 in reply to Gary(NC), 04-19-2005 16:59:20  
I have only done this on a Ford 2000 so I maybe wrong on some points.. When I bought mine, I ordered it with the model number of the tractor and only had to worry about the spline number. I think mine was 16 but can't remember now. Eitherway, it was a slip on type but had the opition of making it not slip off by placing a metal bar in the Coupling shaft and the PTO shaft.
So whenever I wanted to remove it I just popped it out with a punch. The coupling isn't really hard to install. All I did was slip it on whenever I needed to mow and removed it whenever I didn't. Should be pretty easy for you.

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