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railroadgoat

04-18-2005 02:52:40




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Went to drain the oil out of the rear end / transmission on my "H", nothing but water came out (about 3 gallons). Anything special I should do before refilling it with 140wt ?? Anything I should add when refilling it ??




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Marv

04-18-2005 07:26:49




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 Re: water in rear-end in reply to railroadgoat, 04-18-2005 02:52:40  
Had a similar situation on a SM. Took the lid off and found several problems. One axle bearing had spun on the axle. Other bearings look doubtfull. Excess spacing between the ring gear and pinion shaft. I'm still tearing down. Good luck!!!



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Bob M

04-18-2005 07:08:36




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 Re: water in rear-end in reply to railroadgoat, 04-18-2005 02:52:40  
RRgoat - You might try poking around in the drain opening with a broom handle, piece of wood dowel or similar. Could there's a chuck of congealed sludge that had been floating top of the water is now on the bottom and is preventing the tranny from draining all the way.

It amazes me some of the "stuff" I've drained out of old tractor transmissions! Yet the transmissions somehow were not damaged - other than seals becoming leaky after refilling with fresh gear oil.

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Bobg

04-18-2005 08:51:08




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 Re: water in rear-end in reply to Bob M, 04-18-2005 07:08:36  
When I brought my Dad's old M home, it has sat for 15 years outside. There was water in the tranny, I changed it and last week when I checked the level it was all milky. It sat outside this last winter since I had hay in the barn. I will be changing it again, but I'm wondering if the water got in via the bolt recesses in the lid? Any thoughts on that?

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Bobg



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MichaelNEIowa

04-18-2005 09:00:02




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 Re: water in rear-end in reply to Bobg, 04-18-2005 08:51:08  
It has been said many times that the water does indeed get in via the platform bolt recesses. If you have to leave your M outside, might be best to put some kind of cover on it to keep out the water.



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Slappy

04-18-2005 03:41:07




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 Re: water in rear-end in reply to railroadgoat, 04-18-2005 02:52:40  
No oil at all? If you had nothing but clear water I might consider removing the deck and having a look. More than likely though, you had some water followed by a "chocolate milk" fluid come out.??. If the tractor sit outside (and even if it doesn't) water finds its way into the rear end.

Drain the fluid, pore in 3-4 gallons of kerosene and drive it slowly in 1st for 2-4 minutes (don't put any load on it or let it get hot). Drain it again - if the fluid is filthy repeat. When the kerosene comes out pretty clean, refill with 90 wt and you should be good to go. With oil prices as they are you can expect to drop some change on both kerosene and oil (it take 6 gallons)to re-fill.

After a good cleaning you can also probably expect to change a lot of the seals (transmission shafts, breaks & axels), because the kero and new oil will remove all of the gunk that was previously plugging the leaks.

After the cleaning, change your fluid every year if the tractor sits outside or you use it hard, every 2-3 years if it is inside and you use it for light work. If you take care of the transmission and use it correctly you will likely never have a problem with the rear-end.

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