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DanTo

04-13-2005 08:24:04




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Wondering if anyone has ever had any similiar problem like mine with brakes on a Case IH 885 tractor. It has always had excellent brakes until one morning I went to use it, and the pedal went to the floor. I've bled the brakes, and they work good for a day or two, and then the pedal goes to the floor again. I talked to the Case IH dealer, and he suggested putting kits in the master cylinder, but didn't seem to be sure this would solve the problem. I got the new kits, and am going to put them in, but was wondering if anyone else might have any ideas also. Should mention this is the XL cab version of the 885. Thanks!!!

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Bernard le mécano

04-13-2005 16:18:08




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 Re: CaseIH 885 brakes in reply to DanTo, 04-13-2005 08:24:04  
Hi Dan, does the 2 pedals goes to the floor? May be the O ring on the brake piston are worn and cause a leak. I haved change those more often then the master kit. You have to remove the rear axle assembly for access to the brake. Also check if the PTO lever is fully desengaged, if not you have not enough oil to go to the brake system. Bernard le mécano



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DanTo

04-13-2005 20:22:10




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 Re: CaseIH 885 brakes in reply to Bernard le mécano, 04-13-2005 16:18:08  
Bernard, Thanks for the reply. Yes both pedals do go to the floor. Does seem to be a little brake on the right pedal. I'm sure the PTO fully disengages, but will check it for sure. So looks like you may be right about the O ring on the brake piston. Do you have any pointers on replacing that O ring, and how do you know if it is left or right, or should both be replaced? Looks like it may be a project. Thanks, Dan

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Bernard le mécano

04-14-2005 04:18:27




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 Re: CaseIH 885 brakes in reply to DanTo, 04-13-2005 20:22:10  
Hi Dan, try to bleed again and check tomorrow if the right brake is OK. When you press one pedal at the time, you may have a better feel. When you press the both pedal, the equaliser valve split the oil to the both brake, if it have a leak in one piston, both pedal goes donw. It's not a hard job to change the O rings with a XL cab. The support is easy to remove and you have enough room to make the job. When you bleed, pinch with a Wise-Grip, the return hose, from the master cylinder (the big one) and run the engine to 1500 RPM. Place 2 small pipe on the open bleeders and put those pipes in the hole where you put HY-Tran. Press one pedal in the half and hold it, press the other all the way down slowly, 10 time. Make that to the other side, the close the bleeders the stop the engine and remove the pliers. Bernard le mécano

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DanTo

04-14-2005 20:10:17




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 Re: CaseIH 885 brakes in reply to Bernard le mécano, 04-14-2005 04:18:27  
Bernard, Thanks again for the good information. I did bleed the brakes today, so will see what they look like tomorrow. Before I bled them, I unlatched the two pedals, and the right brake did seem to be working, but left pedal went to the floor. So looks like the left O ring is suspect. I"ll let you know what I find tomorrow. Thanks!!! Dan



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Bernard le mécano

04-15-2005 14:11:37




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 Re: CaseIH 885 brakes in reply to DanTo, 04-14-2005 20:10:17  
Hi Dan, it sound like the O rings in the left brake are bad. With the years, How many hours have your tractor. Case-IH have in stock in option, a kit of heavy-duty O rings. In hills condition, those are better. Bernard le mécano



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DanTo

04-15-2005 21:18:39




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 Re: CaseIH 885 brakes in reply to Bernard le mécano, 04-15-2005 14:11:37  
Bernard, Used the tractor this afternoon, and to my surprise, both brakes were working fine. I don't need to use the tractor tomorrow, so will let it sit a couple of days, and see what happens. The tractor has approx 2,150 hours on it. Sounds like you have been around these tractors quite a bit. Another problem I have had with this one, is when working it at night, the lights will go off. I stop, wait a few minutes, and they come back on. May stay on for 20 minutes or so, and off again, wait and come back on. Is there a overload breaker somewhere that is overheating and kicking them off? I don't use it much at night anymore, so isn't a big problem now. Where are you from? I am in Montana. I really appreciate the good information you have given me. Here is my email if you would rather correspond that way. dcfarm@cyberport.net Thanks for all the help! Dan

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Bernard le mécano

04-16-2005 06:46:49




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 Re: CaseIH 885 brakes in reply to DanTo, 04-15-2005 21:18:39  
Hi Dan, i have worked for a CaseIH dealer for 11 years, 6 years ago and i repair tractor in my shop in my free time. I have worked on 74,84,85,95,4200,66,86,Maxxum and Mx series. I'm from Québec, Canada. Wait 2days and check the brakes for the feel, sometime it act like that, you bleed and it work for a day or two then nothing. For the lights, it have a circuit breaker near the air filter, in front of the firewall. Check on the firewall, it have many connection that go in the cab, push on those terminal, in the cab and out. Check the harness that go to the lights for a short circuit. The red lights in the rear of the cab are in the same circuit, also you may have a short there. Hope it's help you. Bernard le mécano Québec Canada

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DanTo

04-17-2005 20:58:09




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 Re: CaseIH 885 brakes in reply to Bernard le mécano, 04-16-2005 06:46:49  
Hi Bernard, Well I did the brake test on my tractor today, and the left pedal goes to the floor. The right pedal goes down further than it did a couple of days ago after I bled them, but it still has good braking on that side. Probably goes down further because the left side has leaked down. So looks like I need to replace O rings in the left side. I do have a big thick service manual (was lucky to find it at a second hand store several years ago), and it shows step by step (with pictures) how to do it. Doesn't look too bad, I have a neighbor who is a mechanic in a Park shop, so I think he would help me. Do you have any pointers that would help us? The book shows that we should use a brake piston removal tool (IH 7847A), and a brake installation tool (IH9674) which of course I don't have. Wondering if I can make something that would work in the place of these tools. Book also shows what looks like a slide hammer (which I have) to use with the brake piston removal tool. From one of your notes, I think you recommended buying the kit of heavy duty O rings? From the parts book, looks like there are three O rings that need to be replaced? I found the circuit breaker you referred to, and so will check all of those connections, and look for a short in the wiring. I really, really appreciate all of the information you have helped me with!!!! Thanks so much!!!! Dan

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Bernard le mécano

04-18-2005 09:53:36




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 Re: CaseIH 885 brakes in reply to DanTo, 04-17-2005 20:58:09  
Hi Dan, you can remove the piston without the tool, just screw 3, 1/4 NC bolts, with a flat washer. Pull with a nail hammer, each bolts, a few pull. It have 3 O rings per brake, 2 on the piston and one for the carrier, wich hold the differentiel. Put grease on those O rings before assembly. I have a tool to push the piston in place, I give you some pics of the tool, it's easy to make, with flat bar. I will send those pics today, after work. Bernard le mécano Québec Canada

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