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H Steering Shaft U-Joint

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kfox

04-10-2005 01:34:48




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Does anyone know where to get replacement joints?
I have two 41 Hs, and the joints are different, (both wore out) One has two plates bolted togather over the pins in each half, and the other joint looks like the automotive type with replacement bearings. Local IH Dealer says not available.




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dave from MN

04-10-2005 07:58:24




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 Re: H Steering Shaft U-Joint in reply to kfox, 04-10-2005 01:34:48  
most machine places have all kinds of knuckles. Make sure you get the proper size and you can figure from there how to get it on. Just make SURE all fastening parts are tight and set. You DO NOT want the steering parts coming loose while driving. Good practice is to check all steering operation at least weekly and check set screws once a month



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Randy SE-MN

04-10-2005 07:19:28




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 Re: H Steering Shaft U-Joint in reply to kfox, 04-10-2005 01:34:48  
I can speak for the automotive type u-joint in that I got mine at Napa. Just take all of the old one in (caps and trunion) and they can match it up. Mine works great...took alot of slop out of the steering. It's a little dickens to get in though...but patience will win the day.



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Jon Bottum

04-10-2005 06:57:40




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 Re: H Steering Shaft U-Joint in reply to kfox, 04-10-2005 01:34:48  
In the past,a company called TISCO [Tractor Implement Supply Company] sold these joints new as an after market item. This company is now owned by Woods, the mower people.Most Implement Dealers have access to this company, as an aftermarket parts supply.



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Nebraska Cowman

04-10-2005 02:38:15




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 Re: H Steering Shaft U-Joint in reply to kfox, 04-10-2005 01:34:48  
I have had pretty good success selling the shaft with joint on eBay. you might watch there or in the classifieds. your other option would be to buy a joint for 3/4 shaft. any power drive supply should be able to get it for you. Right now I have one of the early type that is cut off if you wanted to weld it to your shaft. Would sell reasonable. email for details.



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Paul Shuler

04-10-2005 16:20:13




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 Re: H Steering Shaft U-Joint in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-10-2005 02:38:15  
Hey Cowman, I have a question for you. Mine is all worn out also. The joint that connects to the shaft toward the front seems to have a set screw or bolt to disconect it. But the upper part of the joint I can't figure out how to get off the shaft. Do you just drive it off? Don't want to bust anything.



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Gauger

04-10-2005 18:52:35




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 Re: H Steering Shaft U-Joint in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-10-2005 16:20:13  
Paul, the upper part should be a "u" shaped bracket that comprises half of the joint and is welded to the end of the steering shaft. It stays put, the best fix is to replace the spider assembly. I just bought the spider assembly, as it's called in the parts book, from my IH dealer. He had three more on the shelf. It was $10.50. I don't think they have a website but you can call them at 262-763-3563. It's Otter Sales in Burlington, WI. They will ship. Also, the shaft is 7/8" not 3/4".

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Paul Shuler

04-10-2005 19:07:05




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 Re: H Steering Shaft U-Joint in reply to Gauger, 04-10-2005 18:52:35  
So how do you get the thing apart to replace it.



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Gauger

04-11-2005 06:15:48




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 Re: H Steering Shaft U-Joint in reply to Paul Shuler, 04-10-2005 19:07:05  
Clean it up good so you can see, there are snap rings in the grooves of the bearing caps on the inside of each of the four "ears". Remove the snap rings, you can rotate them in the groove until you get a good shot at the end with a screw driver. With the snap rings removed you can use two sockets to drive the cross one way to remove the first bearing cap and then back the other way to remove the second cap. Repeat for the other two caps. Place the joint on a socket that is large enough to let the bearing cap go down inside of it when you strike the other end with a socket that is small enough to go inside the hole in the "ears". With the caps removed the cross comes out easily. Reverse the procedure to install the new joint. Hope this makes sense. If not, let me know and I'll try again.

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