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caseyc

04-09-2005 07:19:44




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i want to apologize for my little rant last night. that was not the way to go about it. i had gotton home late after a rough day and was not in the best of spirits. i should have just turned the computer off and went to bed. i am never here to say that i am right because everybodys right, we all just have different ways of doing things. yes i did grow up on a dairy farm, but we were small, 60 cow stantion and 300 acres. dad always took care of everything, all i did was do what he told me. by my HS years dad was done so i went full time with the neighbors who had newer bigger JD so circumstances were much different. the tillage tractor was a 8650JD so weight was not needed. my time with these older IH's was limited and i was young so the i did not learn alot of specifics let alone remember them. i left in '97 and spent the next 6 years working and living in town so i could hopefully buy my own farm again some day. two years ago that dream came true. being that my equipment is much older than i am i am here to learn how to do stuff the right way. i take everything you guys say seriously and apply it to see what works for me and what doesn't. the whole thing about dualing up and no weight's make sence to me now. problem is i don't have duals at the moment so therefore i'm just trying to make the best of my situation. i love this board and i am ashamed i let my self get excited in that last post. i'm sorry. everubody have a great weekend.

casey in SD

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Okla Kansan

04-10-2005 13:39:12




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 Re: gordon, allen, and any others..... in reply to caseyc, 04-09-2005 07:19:44  

Ive been farming since 69. First couple years into it, I bought a SC Case, 1951, cultivators, NH picker and elevator, on time. Lost them all. Since then, and somwhat before ive owned my own equipment. Now, however, Ive got 4 tractors mortagaged for other things, and thats not good. I see the big farmer round here ( actually the only big farmer round here), and it seems like he would worry if somthing broke on his new equipment, which put him behind, which he may not have payed for. I expect somthing to break on my equipment, and pretty much know, if it does, where it will be, and how to fix it. I dont worry about it being paid for, as all the machinery is. I was supprised, when, the church deacon wanted to borrow my planter to plant sweet corn, and his grandson wanted to use it to plant RR corn. There high up people, nyet they came to me to borrow a planter that was old when I bought it in 68. Anyway, it supprised me, as one of the discs had broke off. NEver seed that to happen before, and gotta git it fixed. I still can plant corn with it, and they are goint to do so

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Sloroll

04-09-2005 10:32:10




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 Re: gordon, allen, and any others..... in reply to caseyc, 04-09-2005 07:19:44  
I din't see anything you said that was offensive. Informed opinions make the world go round. Ignorant statements are what make the world stop... and look at the fool spewing them. Keep your shoulder to it you got all my prayers. We always farmed 25-40 years behind the times. We worked incredibly hard and dad made sure he could tell the banker at any given time to kiss off, Is no shame in using what is payed for and stumping out a living... It can get frustrating though and I understand that. For years we did everything with a 300U and a two bottom plow. Had to hire harvest. I was embarassed as heck plowing along the highway the tractor steaming and my buddies driving by. Neighbor had a 12 tired Stieger He was real friendly waving and scooting around that piece of his. That noncompaction, contraption snapped an axel in a mud hole one spring. All that equpment that only that tractor could pull was useless. He couldn't borrow a tractor with out borrowing all the equpment and ended up having to buy smaller stuff to get his crop in. The neighbor on the other side still plowing with his JD 80 kept going round and round as did I in the little 300. Both us play farmers kept our farms, and our equpment well maintained and turned a proffit. Stieger man lost her all. Good luck to you.

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Nathan in Texas

04-09-2005 08:22:42




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 Re: gordon, allen, and any others..... in reply to caseyc, 04-09-2005 07:19:44  
Casey,

I think you are one of the more straight up posters on the board. Appreciate your input on things. I don't think you were out of line at all in your posts.

The bulk of the folks posting on here are people that aren't out in the field working their tractors full time. The full time farmers around here have $250,000+ tractors that have computers to plow the right contour lines and don't even have to rip open a bag of seed to put in their planters - they stick a pallet box of seed right in the planter. It is an amazing how technical the modern stuff is.

Oh well, just thought I would add my 1/2 cent opinion!

LOL, Nathan

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Paul in Mich

04-09-2005 09:49:21




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 Re: gordon, allen, and any others..... in reply to Nathan in Texas, 04-09-2005 08:22:42  
Nathan, Will ya bring one of those planters that loads itself over here? I got about 2300 acres of soys to plant here in the next month or so, and so far, All I got to fill the drill is a Porto-Box with a 4 in. auger. Now thats after I"ve already handled the beans once to treat them and put them in gravity wagons and trucks. Dang, I"d love one of those new fangled thing-a-ma-bobs to get out of all that work. i"m lucky, because I dont have to wrestle 50 lb bags of seed corn from the truck to the planter. We got some young guy with fresh mustcles to plant corn. Only thing is that with our 20 year old (paid for) equipment, we may be able to keep one step ahead of the banker. I";ve seen a lot of this new equipment, and while there are many features which make them somewhat less phisically demanding, I"ve yet to see anything about farming that is totaly "back friendly". Heck, some of these new tractors and combines are harder for us 65 yr old geezers to climb up into than the old 50 yr old stuff. I know for a fact that my H is easier to mount than the 1456 is to climb into the cab. Maybe when they mount esclators to farm equipment, things will get easier.

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Allan in NE

04-09-2005 08:51:03




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 Re: gordon, allen, and any others..... in reply to Nathan in Texas, 04-09-2005 08:22:42  
Hi Nathan,

I was looking at an older IH in the shop yesterday (5288??) that was set up to run one of these new JD electric tie balers.

Had a little computer touch-screen mounted on a pedistal in the cab. Darnest thing I've ever seen. Owner was having an air-ride seat out of a semi installed 'cause IH didn't make parts for his tractor any more. The silly seat cost him $600. :>(

Yep, things are a changin' pretty darned fast anymore.

Allan

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Nathan in Texas

04-09-2005 09:09:11




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 Re: gordon, allen, and any others..... in reply to Allan in NE, 04-09-2005 08:51:03  
I'm an accountant and I know quite a few folks in my office that have paid more than $600 for a chair that they sit at their desk all day in. I paid $14 for a brand new seat cushion for my M the other day! ;-)

The big thing here right now is getting your field mapped by a GPS and Laser Leveling system and then have a computer design the correct contour system for your individual field. We aren't talking about crazy hills or anything, just very slight contours. Maybe 10 - 20 feet of drop on a section. Some pretty crazy looking S curves with the contours but it keeps the water in the field when it rains instead of running off and makes a big difference on yields.

Not a huge dramatic difference over the old way they were running their rows but a little bit of tweaking and using the computer to make the rows for them really has changed the run off just in the last few years on the fields right around my house. Center pivot irrigation systems are also pretty common here and the rows have to be perfect circles for those. I have no idea if they use brakes when they are plowing in a circle! ;-)

LOL, have fun! I think I'll get to work on my M some today!

Nathan

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migraine

04-09-2005 07:35:02




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 Re: gordon, allen, and any others..... in reply to caseyc, 04-09-2005 07:19:44  
Hey casey. I appreciate the 'cool down post'. Don't worry about it. The very independent nature of the farmer that it takes to survive is what keeps the dream alive. Glad it gave you a second chance. I'm kinda having withdrawal symptoms this spring as we're not going to farm this year. But I'll just load up a couple of the Farmalls next weekend and go pulling with the guys. If you think these discussions are lively, stand on the sidelines at the pulling track and here the boys rant about the right way to do things. Migraine

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Allan in NE

04-09-2005 07:33:01




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 Re: gordon, allen, and any others..... in reply to caseyc, 04-09-2005 07:19:44  
He!!, ya old gopher killer, whadda talkin'?

Heck, I look up to you. You're out in the dirt doin' it, and I'm ridin' a silly computer to make a livin'.

You're light years ahead of me, the way I see it.

Oh, and by the way, a 60-cow stanchion barn and 300 acres is no small potatoes, I don't care what anybody says. Nobody on the face of this green earth knows how much work that demands unless he has actually done it.

It’s okay to be tired and grouchy; wish I were in your shoes. :>)

Allan

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