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Nebraska Cowman

04-04-2005 15:47:10




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OK, I hate to be beatin' a dead horse here but i gotta know and the DOT rules just confuse me. Some somebody give it to me on simple language? If I have two 5/16 G7 chains and two matching binders that are labled for 5400 pounds does that mean I can haul a 5400 pound tractor?




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mike_r

04-07-2005 20:46:46




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 Re: trailer tiedown chains in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-04-2005 15:47:10  
Are nylon straps(3" w/15,000lb load capacity) acceptable for securing tractors and vehicles, if used according to DOT guidelines, or do these straps present a safety concern due to rubbing, wear or possible slippage?
Thanks.



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M 560

04-07-2005 09:20:38




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 Re: trailer tiedown chains in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-04-2005 15:47:10  
According to the DOT yes



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scot_c

04-05-2005 18:32:15




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 Re: trailer tiedown chains in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-04-2005 15:47:10  
states can have their own requirements, if you use the right size and knots it is legal to bind a load with rope in california.



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Paul A.

04-05-2005 09:54:32




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 Re: trailer tiedown chains in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-04-2005 15:47:10  
If you go into Google.com and type in "393.128", it will take you to the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration pages. Hauling tractors is covered by sections 393.128 and 393.130. If the tractor is less than 10,000 pounds, you only need two tiedowns. If over 10,000 pounds, however, you do need four separate tiedowns.



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the tractor vet

04-04-2005 18:35:57




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 Re: trailer tiedown chains in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-04-2005 15:47:10  
I guess i can help here as since i just left a job that i hauled heavy equipment and machinery and oversize load and had to deal whith them everyday you MUST have a 4 point tie down and also now must have 60% hold back so now that means if they want to get picky you must have a chain on each corner and at least one chain pullen back total 5 chains don't care if it is only 4000 lbs and you must X the chains . Had a big fight while haulen new Cat skidsteers had to have 4 chains and 4 binder on each machine when two chains would have done the job and since i only had 16 chains and binders i had to buy 4 more to move the load i had five on the deck and had to have 20 chains and binders.

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RustyFarmall

04-04-2005 17:57:07




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 Re: trailer tiedown chains in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-04-2005 15:47:10  
Cowman, those D.O.T. rules are wide open to interpretation, one officer will tell you it is OK, the next officer will sideline you and make you fix something that isn't broke. The most important thing you can do is to make sure that the load looks good, everything is chained down, and there are no loose chain ends hanging over the edge of the trailer. I prefer 3/8 chain myself, but I do have a couple of 5/16 chains, and binders to match. Tractors usually get the 3/8. Lighter, smaller implements get the 5/16. As far as I know, the DOT has never even given me a second look, and I have even had them follow me for several miles, waiting for a chance to pass. I might also add that some of my chains are quite rusty appearing (not pitted, or I wouldn't use them) and a couple of them are new and shiny. I use whatever fits the need.

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JOSSETTE

04-04-2005 17:24:30




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 Re: trailer tiedown chains in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-04-2005 15:47:10  
the best way around the D.O.T. is to have two chains and binders per axel. 4 in all. they will choke on their donuts and let you go.....



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Jamie Stratton

04-04-2005 16:58:25




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 Re: trailer tiedown chains in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-04-2005 15:47:10  
I guess you mean g70 rated chains. In Maryland the chains are legal up to 10,000 lbs per chain. In Pennsylvania they are rated at 8,000. It depends on your state and what they consider legal. But to haul a tractor using 2 chains and 2 binders you should be within DOT regulations



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Jamie Stratton

04-04-2005 17:06:19




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 Re: trailer tiedown chains in reply to Jamie Stratton, 04-04-2005 16:58:25  
and another thing It's all really about safety. I mean of course in theory you could haul so much more weight with those chains. Another thing that always gets me is that if you have one 20 foot chain doubled up accross a load with 2 binders on one end it would be just as strong as 2 chains, but they only count it as one. The DOT is strict but I doubt they would consider a g70 for any less then 8,000. You should be perfectly fine.

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