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Best de-greasing agent???

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scott#2

03-22-2005 10:15:10

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I started working on this new SA I got at a sale last weekend. First of all, its a one owner with about 55 years of accumulated grease on it from filling fluids. I soaked it up real good with some biodegradeable cleaner and took the pressure washer to it for about an hour. Needless to say the baked on stuff is pretty tuff and the lesser is just about as bad.

Does anyone know of a good degreaser that will work better and wont eat up the gaskets, seals, rubber, etc?

I posted a pic in the tractor section...48 super a, if anyone wants to see a real greaser.

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scott#2

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Dave From MN

03-22-2005 18:48:32

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Re: Best de-greasing agent???Forgot this one in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:15:10

What REALLY is effective for getting off grease and chemical build up is a machine we had at our factory that hooked up to plant air (about 90PSI). It shot dry ice pellets anfd froze the crap and just peeled it off. It did not harm wiring. We used it to remove caked on paint on paint chains, dried resins, grease. It took of every thing. I do not know if any place around you would have one for rent, but it will beat anything.

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Leland

03-22-2005 17:52:35

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:15:10

Try some stuff called zip strip this is a powerful paint remover but will eat any thing off metal but you will need to repaint after words will take it to bare metal in 2 hours.

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Leland

03-22-2005 17:52:20

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:15:10

Try some stuff called zip strip this is a powerful paint remover but will eat any thing off metal but you will need to repaint after words will take it to bare metal in 2 hours.

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Dixieland

03-22-2005 17:33:19

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:15:10

Chisel, knife, scraper, screwdriver, or whatever fer the heavy old build-up. A 1500 PSI pressurre washer and a good detergent will help a lot but with the tough stuff you gotta work at it. At least that worked fer me...Good luck...Dixieland

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BIG JOHN

03-22-2005 16:46:46

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:15:10

Just picked up a new 5 gal. bucket of ZEP Purple Degreaser at Home Depot Sunday. They have it in smaller containers also. Is is located in the same location as their Hi Pressure Washers. You don't want to leave this on any alumimun parts very long because it can pit some of them. As good as this is it still won't remove grease build up, that has to be scraped off first.

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scott#2

03-22-2005 17:45:54

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? And now paint??? in reply to BIG JOHN, 03-22-2005 16:46:46

Thanks for all the help, I performed "level 1" degreasing today. Some of that stuff was so tuff, it was like trying to scrape the dots off of a basketball, (used everything known to mankind)... (I love old tractors, I love old tractors, I love old tractors)

I want to do a good job on this one, but really dont want to tear it completly apart and spray each piece seperate like on the last resto.

Whats a good way to prep the majority of the tractor (tin excluded) for painting? Or can I just degrease real good and prime and paint? Sandblasting??

I used a 2 part epoxy primer last time. Should I use that on the whole tractor again? Or should I try to use a primer closer to the color of the orig. IH primer?

Last but not least, is the pit process still prep, fill, paint? Or has anyone come up with a better method lately?

I posted on the paint and body side as well,I am just wondering how this half does it.

Sorry for the wind.

Thank You,
scott#2

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CNKS

03-22-2005 18:33:20

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? And now paint??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 17:45:54

As to your paint question, yes use epoxy primer, it bonds better to the metal and gives a better bond to the topcoat than ordinary primers. The color is not important, red may make chips, etc harder to see, but it is also harder to see places you miss. I use bondo or some similar product for the pits. I use a sandable surfacer on top of the epoxy on the sheet metal to get a smooth finish, but it doesn't do much for pits that have any depth to them. I put JB weld on the trans cover of my Super H which was eaten by battery acid. There are some spray on body fillers, you still have to sand, I have not tried them. A lot of people just pressure wash everything and then paint. I don't because I think all metal needs to be etched, including the cast. Thus everything gets wire brushed and then washed multiple times with wax and grease remover until the rags come clean. Only my opinion, to me there is no easy way to prep a tractor. Only sandblasting I do is for parts I have removed.

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Dave From MN

03-22-2005 14:28:05

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:15:10

Use a pressure streamer washer. Most rental places have them. or try a hot box which heats the pressurised water inline after the pressure pump. As most have said scrape off as much as possible with putty knifes. You'll save a lot of time

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Redmud

03-22-2005 13:23:27

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:15:10

One of the best degreasers made, is liquid dish washing detergent in a high pressure washer. This came from a guy that sold degreaser by the drum. We tried it, and never bought another drum. A small bottle of dish washing liquid will go a long way.

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Farmall Frank

03-22-2005 14:30:15

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to Redmud, 03-22-2005 13:23:27

...and Dawn is the best dishwashing soap.

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RustyFarmall

03-22-2005 12:53:49

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:15:10

In more than one instance I have had to resort to a putty knife, wire brush, and elbow grease. Mineral spirits is about the best thing I have found to dissolve grease without harming paint.

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terryger

03-22-2005 13:26:34

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to RustyFarmall, 03-22-2005 12:53:49

brake clean or carb cleaner will do the job but it will be expensive and highly toxic. be careful of your run off.

there are less toxic but they hardly do squat

still takes a lot of elbow grease, putty knives, screwdrivers, knives of assorted sizes, wire brushes(sears sells an assortment of different shapes and sizes to fit your drill for about a buck), steel wool, brillo pads and those tough green fiber scrubbies.

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NEsota

03-22-2005 11:25:10

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:15:10

My experience with degreasing tractors is minimal but I understand that Minnesota has an equipment manufacture building gear that uses very high pressure water to cut steel. This is per a conversation with an alleged employee of the company several years ago. If this is correct there must be some water pressure and concentration between what we get out of a garden hose and that used to cut steel that would clean old iron. To this novice that seems a better way to go than sandblasting or the application and removal of chemicals. Comments please.

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the tractor vet

03-22-2005 10:23:28

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:15:10

Easy OFF oven cleaner but only if you are going to repaint it it will take everything off.

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Dixieland

03-22-2005 11:36:28

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to the tractor vet, 03-22-2005 10:23:28

Hi Vet...I tried the easy off according to the directions for an oven and all it did was turn the paint pink. Think maybe I removed it,(easy-off) too soon?

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Farmall Frank

03-22-2005 14:34:18

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to Dixieland, 03-22-2005 11:36:28

I"ve noticed if you leave it on for hours, you can hose off almost all the paint. It turns it to a liquid, mostly. Some of it sheets off. The longer left on the better, from my experience.

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Dixieland

03-22-2005 16:08:40

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to Farmall Frank, 03-22-2005 14:34:18

Ok Frank....I'll give it another try and let it stay on longer this time...Thanks...Dixieland

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scott#2

03-22-2005 10:33:18

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to the tractor vet, 03-22-2005 10:23:28

Great Idea, never even thought of that. I can hear the commercial now, "removes stubborn, baked on greaes.

How about the wires and and other things that arent steel or cast? Will it mess them up?

Thanks for the tip!

scott#2

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the tractor vet

03-22-2005 10:45:08

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to scott#2, 03-22-2005 10:33:18

well we usualy have them off so i would have to say take them off as i don't know if it will eat them or not . And keep it off any alu. it will eat that for sure A buddy use to bring this cleaner home from work that we would clean tractors off with and it would eat the alu. paint off the rear rims clean down to bear metal but that stuff would realy clean it would take the red paint and turn it pink.

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Kent Gustafson

03-22-2005 12:56:03

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to the tractor vet, 03-22-2005 10:45:08

Any idea how this oven cleaner (or something else) might work on old brake shoes covered with transmisson fluid from a leaking seal?

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Chuck Kaufman

03-23-2005 09:25:13

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Re: Best de-greasing agent??? in reply to Kent Gustafson, 03-22-2005 12:56:03

Used to take ols greased up brake shoes soak em in Coleman stove gas then light them off.Cleaned them right up

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