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M oil pump ??

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JonM

03-20-2005 08:53:35




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I am working on an early M 25xxx, and have a parts tractor 34xxx, the oil pumps are pretty much the same except for the pressure regulating valve, on the running tractor the pump had a valve with part of the valve turned down smaller, on the parts tractor the valve had a set of 4 holes drilled around the top edge, which looks like it would let a small amount of oil pass through at all times, I realize oil pumps are easily changed out, but was just wondering if anyone could recommend which one to use, the tractor will be used in the field and pulled with a little. thanks Jon

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Slappy

03-21-2005 03:24:14




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 Re: M oil pump ?? in reply to JonM, 03-20-2005 08:53:35  
John,

I'm not sure about the M pumps - I'm working on an H and they are all the same for that model. What I would do is check the clearance on each. Pay close attention to the following:

1 - gear backlash should probably be around 0.006 or so. You can still get NOS gears if needed.

2 - Side to side play in the shaft. This should be minimal. If you have play check the clearance between the the casting and gears; if it's out of spec look for a new pump.

3 - Check for end play in the shaft. Should be 0.005 or less. If its out, you can knock out the pin in the drive gear at the top, pull the gear with a puller and get some shims to place under the gear from someplace like McMaster and Carr to make up the play. If you had some play you will have some galling on the bottom end plate that will need to be taken out. Either grind it out yourself using grindind compound and a flat surface ot take it to a machine shop.

Ive heard some people argue that thes pump is submersed in oil and so don't wear out, but that's not true. I think that many people believe this because those pumps were really over-engineered and will give good oil pressure even if they are worn. So I guess that the take-home message is, that the pump dosen't need to be perfect to do a respectable job.

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JonM

03-21-2005 08:40:03




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 Re: M oil pump ?? in reply to Slappy, 03-21-2005 03:24:14  
Slappy,
Thanks for the reply, the pumps are in good condition overall, I guess I was just wondering about the regulating valve, the piece above the relief spring, they are different, and my parts book does not show a new number, I was curious if one was better, your right about the overeigineering on them, good heavy parts for the job.. its strange but on the running tractor the gear was on upside down, you can see where the cam had very little contact with it.

thanks Jon

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