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Bruce Wa.

03-17-2005 17:05:34




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If you take the spark plugs out of a 400 diesel that is stuck and open the gas starting valves, how much kroil should you spray in the cylinders? I'm assuming it'll get to the pistons with the starting valves open. thanks in advance.




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caseman-d

03-18-2005 19:57:21




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 Re: how much Kroil in reply to Bruce Wa., 03-17-2005 17:05:34  
If it was my tractor would drain the crankcase, fill the cylinders with a mixture of charcoal fluid and ATP. Once the cllinders are full replace the plugs, after a few day's pull the drain plug on the crankcase and see if any of the ATF leaked through. I also found by removing the starter and getting a big pry bar and work on the flywheel trying both directions. One has to remember it didn't get stuck over night.
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DONW in SD

03-17-2005 20:37:16




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 Re: how much Kroil in reply to Bruce Wa., 03-17-2005 17:05:34  
I used a 16 oz can and used half of it on two different tractors and freed both of them up within two weeks



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Bruce Wa.

03-18-2005 06:25:30




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 Re: how much Kroil in reply to DONW in SD, 03-17-2005 20:37:16  
The guy I got it from claims it was running about a year ago. T hat's why I'm even trying.I think I'll keep soaking and be patient.



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dr.sportster

03-17-2005 19:32:18




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 Re: how much Kroil in reply to Bruce Wa., 03-17-2005 17:05:34  
Not too much that spray cost me $11.00 a can.Marvel mystery oil is cheaper.I question the price of Kroil.



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Yellott Canby

03-17-2005 17:37:25




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 Re: how much Kroil in reply to Bruce Wa., 03-17-2005 17:05:34  
Hello, Found that whatever you use as far as oil in the cylinder, a good way to free up a stuck engine is to park the tractor ,in high gear, pointed down hill and gently rock it up hill from behind by pulling it with another tractor. If this doesn't free her she is probably pitted in the cylinders and will have to be torn down. Good luck, YC



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PAULIH300

03-17-2005 17:34:55




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 Re: how much Kroil in reply to Bruce Wa., 03-17-2005 17:05:34  
I have heard stories of guys taking old cars/trucks with stuck engines and towing them around 20-30mph and popping the clutch (not 1st gear I hope!) and freeing them up,however,after that they burned oil to beat the band.With a stuck engine there is no free lunch.
Of course you cant tow a tractor down the road like that,but if its frozen,its frozen...that totally screws up the rings/cylinder wall.

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NDS

03-18-2005 06:24:40




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 Re: how much Kroil in reply to PAULIH300, 03-17-2005 17:34:55  
Have to agree with Andy I have M that I helped my Dad free up in seventys. Had to pull head to break pistons loose and cylinder walls were slightly pitted. He decided to put it back together and give it a try. Tractor ran for 2 or 3 years and after that it was paeked in pole barn for thirty years. Couple of years ago I got old tractor out fixed it up a little and started using it. Tractor fired right up on with no problem and after running it for about 100 hours have added no oil and it still has no smoke or blow by.

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Andy Martin

03-18-2005 05:04:43




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 Re: how much Kroil in reply to PAULIH300, 03-17-2005 17:34:55  
The use of too much force will break rings and cause a lot of oil burning.

I have freed up old tractors, some of which did not subsequently burn oil. It depends on how badly stuck they are. The exhaust open to rain for five years, you might as well tear it down. You may even have a freeze crack in No. 2. Sealed up but stuck after several years, if you can get it freed up without breaking anything you have a good chance at not having to tear down.

You can tell a lot by looking at the spark plugs when you pull them. If they look like it may run with the old plugs, that is good news.

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the tractor vet

03-17-2005 17:15:12




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 Re: how much Kroil in reply to Bruce Wa., 03-17-2005 17:05:34  
I use ZEP and it will get down there with the starting valves open we use to use two full large cans and let her set for a few days , now if there is water in there it helps to get the water out first.



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Nebraska Cowman

03-17-2005 17:10:15




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 Re: how much Kroil in reply to Bruce Wa., 03-17-2005 17:05:34  
I wouldn't waste my time but if you want to do something pour a couple quarts of diesel fuel in it. If it breaks loose, fine, but chances are you are going to tear it down anyway.



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