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2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Pressure

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Tanner Clark

03-16-2005 06:24:34




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Folks, now that my 44 H is running but still having fuel problems I need to clean out my fuel tank. It is still getting some sediment into the inlet of the sediment bowl. The screen is clean, and fuel lines and the filter are new, however fuel is barely coming through the inlet even with the fuel bowl off of the tank. What is the best way to clean the tank? I have the tank off now. Should I just take it to a radiator shop and have them boil it, and seal it? I don't want to stick a bunch of bolts inside the tank and then drive around. I would like it to be done correctly the first time.

2nd question. Oil pressure guage. I have the old style, but I have a new style guage to replace the old one. The old guage has a female connection, and the new guage has a male connection. The line that connects to the guage is also male, I think 7/16 or 3/8. Stan told me to get a female to female connector to hook this up now. I went to advanced autoparts, and of course they didn't have the part to do this. who should I check out?

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Tanner Clark

03-18-2005 07:18:12




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
The tank is just a little dirty, and it cleans up
real nice. However, there is a little washer/disc
that sits in the shaft of the fuel bowl inlet. That disc is moveable (up and down inside the shaft) but it is very tight. I also think this might have been the reason for the slow fuel, because it was all the way at the top of the inlet, with only a 1/16 opening for fuel to come out into the bowl.
> I also looked over the new and old oil guage. Man
nothing seems to work. I made a couple of post
again, so maybe you can check that out. I went out again last night to my local stores, and none of the stores has what I need to hook this up correctly it seems. So I wonder if I just need to order a whole new set up pipes, and guage from Case.

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El Toro

03-17-2005 08:50:31




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
Hi Tanner, Stan rattled my memory, I have one of those brass fittings that is 1/8 female pipe thread to 1/4 inch tubing. If you have a problem
finding one, drop me an email and I'll mail it to you. Hal
PS: This would eliminate the 1/8 pipe coupling.
If you know any plumbers they can tell you if the
the gauge fitting is 1/8 pipe by looking at it.



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Stan(VA).

03-16-2005 21:00:48




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
Tanner,
I just sent you an email, guess I should have checked here first! These guys sparked my memory and I think I told you wrong on that oil gauge fitting (Thanks guys for straightening me out). I thought it might be 1/8" NPT on both sides, but the references to a tube fitting are correct (for the old gauge). I checked some of my old stock and found an empty box (which I sometimes save for a part number when I find something useful) from Brass-Tite, part #43011, listed as 1/4" OD tube to 1/8" female NPT. I can't guarantee that it's the final solution, but I would sure start there as it's probably why I saved it. It probably came from a Pep Boys or the like. I have the hood off my H at the moment (recently replaced PS unit seals) and will check if it has one of these adapters on it. If so, will try to get a picture and email it to you tomorrow.

On the fuel tank, you got several good ideas here, but many of them aimed at tanks with a rust problem where scale is breaking loose and constantly plugging things up. I don't think you had a rust problem as much as dirt, so you should be OK with flushing. Certainly inspect it again to be sure, but I recall the inside of the tank was still fairly bright.
Stan(VA).

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El Toro

03-16-2005 16:40:55




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
Hi Tanner, I thought this info may be useful for you on your new oil gauge. The diameter of 1/8 male pipe thread is .405" and for 1/4 male pipe thread it is .540". Hal



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doodelbug

03-16-2005 16:14:09




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
try a magnet on a stick (metal rod ) and drag it around the inside if its not too rusty. mine was very rusty, i did the electroylsis thing and coated with RED shellack. looks good now.



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Farmall Frank

03-16-2005 10:26:16




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
Gas flow was very slow on mine with the bowl off, so I took apart the body the bowl attaches to and discovered a bunch of crud in the center orifice that goes through the screen and into the fuel tank. It was just full of hard pieces of varnish and other curd. I tried to blow through it but nothing. Cleaned it out with a pick, and it fixed the problem.



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F-Dean

03-16-2005 08:07:46




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
Some radiator shops will clean and line it.



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El Toro

03-16-2005 07:51:41




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
Hi Tanner, I would have the gas tank cleaned at a radiator shop. In addition to keeping the tank full of fuel as someone suggested you should add
a fuel stabilizer when the tractor isn't used for long periods of time. That will prevent the varnish buildup from the unleaded gas in the tank and carburetor.

That new oil pressure gauge probably has a male pipe thread. It may be 1/8" or 1/4"
and you will probably need a brass pipe coupling
to fit the gauge and a brass compression tube fitting from male pipe to tubing to make the connection to the gauge. Home Depot has a assortment of brass tube fittings. Take the gauge and tubing with you and someone in the plumbing department will help you. You may also need a tube fitting to install on your H to be able to connect the other end of the new tubing. Take that fitting along too. Hal

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Paul in Mich

03-16-2005 07:05:31




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
Tanner, NAPA, in most instances will have a much larger inventory of brass fittings than would most chain auto parts stores, because they not only cater to the retail clientele, but are wholesale suppliers to automotive repair shops.

If you have your fuel tank removed, you can have it professionally cleaned and lined, or you can do it yourself by attaching it someway to a device that will rotate it and put some pea size gravel or tumbling stones in the tank and tumble it until the scale inside is cleaned up. Then turn it upside down and allow "all" the stones to escape. Then pour the liner inside and pour out the excess. It depends on how comfortable you feel in attempting such a project. One fellow I know of strapped the gas tank to a rear tractor wheel which had been jacked up from the ground and allowed to turn for several hours.

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MTK

03-16-2005 07:01:23




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
I was in same situation last summer,went to local
TSC store Lowes and Autozone nobody had such a
part either.I then stopped at Napa in our area and they had a large selection of brass fittings,
I found exactly what I needed by bringing in the
gauge and line.



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riverbend

03-16-2005 06:59:55




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
It depends on how much crud is in your gas tank. I had a similar problem and the nut and bolt approach worked for me.

Be sure to count the hardware that you drop in and use a variety of sizes. Put a couple gallons of water in the tank with the nuts and bolts. Just shaking the tank will get the big chunks out, they are causing most of the trouble. Dump out the dirty water. Refill with clean water and repeat until the water comes out clean. Then dump in a couple quarts of isopropol alcohol to remove the water.

Once the tank is clean, just keeping it mostly full and using the tractor regularly will prevent the problem from reoccuring.

Try a regular hardware store or a NAPA for the adapter fitting. You will need to take the line and the gauage with you.

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Tanner Clark

03-16-2005 06:58:18




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:24:34  
Also, I removed the precleaner to get the gas tank off. I cleaned up the precleaner, but there was no oil or anything down in the bottom of the can. Shouldn't it have some type of oil in the bottom to catch the dust particles or dirt, etc?



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Tanner Clark

03-16-2005 08:51:34




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:58:18  
My tank isn't that dirty, but it seems to get these little flakes/sediment into the inlet prior to the sediment screen.



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riverbend

03-16-2005 15:44:04




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 08:51:34  
If the inside of the tank is not all rusty, the nut and bolt method should be all you need. The crud will be mostly on the bottom. It sounds like varnish from stale/dried up gas.

I think an earlier post said that you had resored a motorcycle. What bike was it ?



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tanner clark

03-16-2005 17:25:07




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to riverbend, 03-16-2005 15:44:04  
Riverbend. I have fully restored the following bikes.

1988 Yamaha FZR-600
1986 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-1000R
1977 Harley Low Rider.

However, the whole tractor deal is new to me.



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riverbend

03-17-2005 06:28:57




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to tanner clark, 03-16-2005 17:25:07  
Those '80s japanese bikes can be tough and expensive.



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26Red

03-16-2005 08:43:44




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to Tanner Clark, 03-16-2005 06:58:18  
I'd clean the air filter too- take the hole unit off and soak it in kerosene or part's washer fluid to clean up the screens. Fill the cup to the oil level line and reinstall. The precleaner above the hood should be dry.



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tanner clark

03-16-2005 17:35:55




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to 26Red, 03-16-2005 08:43:44  
Hey guys. The new guage has a sticker on it that says "For use with Farmall Cub and Lowboy" It seems that the male part of the new guage is a smaller diameter than the old guage, probably a difference of 1/4 to like a 7/16. What do you think? I went to three different parts stores tonight and nobody has a female to female connector that has different sizes on either end. So maybe I need to get a different guage for my tractor.

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Tanner Clark

03-18-2005 05:51:27




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 Re: 2 Questions, Fuel tank cleaning,a nd Oil Press in reply to tanner clark, 03-16-2005 17:35:55  
All I know is, is unless I rehooch this whole set up with the guage that I currently have, I would have to buy a whole new set up, because I went back to the part stores, and they don't seem to sell anything that will work.



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