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H Transmission Bearings - Replace or Reuse ?

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James in MD

03-07-2005 17:41:00




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As I posted previously, I received a '49 H with transmission trouble as a wedding present. When I opened the cover I found that it had been used extensively after the pilot bearing had disentgrated and destroyed the main shaft, constant drive pinion gear and constant drive gear. I found a donor tractor and removed all the transmission parts yesterday and now I'm in a dilema.

The bearings in my '49 are shot, however the bearings in the donor tractor are in good shape. Is it foolish to replace just the pilot bearing and use the rest of the bearings from the donor?

What you guys think? Is trying to save $100 by reusing the bearings going to cost me big later? I will definitely be replacing the seals and am scared to reuse the pilot bearing so I will be purchasing it new.

One little side note: When did they use a trans top plate with the shift pattern cast into the housing? The tractor with the cast pattern was missing the serial tag so I couldn't determine it's year. I've seen a '40, 42, '49, & '50 without the numbers cast in, so when did they change?

Thanks guys.

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MagMan

03-08-2005 05:04:04




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 Re: H Transmission Bearings - Replace or Reuse ? in reply to James in MD, 03-07-2005 17:41:00  
Hi James, I have a ???? Unless you are going to restore to Factory Orig Then Why not just switch Rearends around and save yourself alot of time and money.?? JON



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El Toro

03-08-2005 04:00:55




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 Re: H Transmission Bearings - Replace or Reuse ? in reply to James in MD, 03-07-2005 17:41:00  
Hi Jim, Email me some of those bearing numbers
I have an assortment of new bearings. I'm in Bel Air. Hal



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Nebraska Cowman

03-07-2005 20:57:11




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 Re: H Transmission Bearings - Replace or Reuse ? in reply to James in MD, 03-07-2005 17:41:00  
My thoughts exactly, you ain't gonna get very many bearings for $100. I'd reuse the old ones if they seem OK.



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riverbend

03-07-2005 20:08:37




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 Re: H Transmission Bearings - Replace or Reuse ? in reply to James in MD, 03-07-2005 17:41:00  
If you are careful about removing the donor bearings, and they check out, like captaink says, they should be okay. A bearing on a shaft should be removed by driving the inner race off the shaft. A bearing in a retainer or a case should be removed by driving the outer race out of the housing. You want to be careful not to bruise the balls or races.

I spent about $500 to do the same job on my H, but that may have included a clutch too. At the time, I was down on the local dealer and used aftermarket bearings. The pilot bearing was on it's way out after just a few weeks, so I would suggest that one be a genuine IH bearing. Also, put a magnet in the bottom of the gear case to collect any metal chips that did not get flushed out.

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captaink

03-07-2005 19:50:22




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 Re: H Transmission Bearings - Replace or Reuse ? in reply to James in MD, 03-07-2005 17:41:00  
Here is my 2 cents worth. I’m with CNKS and wonder if your are getting quality bearings for $100 or how many bearings you are getting for that amount. If you are planning on using the tractor as your main workhorse and can’t afford down time it might be worth the money to buy new bearings.

However, if you were planning on using this tractor occasionally for yard work, bush hogging etc, you might be just as well off to use the donor bearings IF they pass the following. First, clean and inspect the bearings you want to use very carefully. Make sure that the balls and races don’t have any signs of rust, pits, or missing flakes on them. Check the ball retainers for cracks, missing attaching pins between the balls etc. When clean and dry the bearings should spin easy by hand smoothly and quietly. If they click when they spin or have any rough spots, I would replace the bearings. If they are excessively loose (ball bearings by nature have some play to allow for heat-related expansion and lubricant) replace them. If they run smooth, don’t click and run as quiet as a new one, I would use the old ones. With good lubricant in the gearbox they will probably last a very long time.

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CNKS

03-07-2005 17:58:28




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 Re: H Transmission Bearings - Replace or Reuse ? in reply to James in MD, 03-07-2005 17:41:00  
I assume the gear shift pattern was cast in the "slot top" cover, used thru 15967, or early 1940, but I have not seen that particular cover. If you can get all new bearings for only $100, I darn sure wouldn't use the old ones, provided the new ones are quality bearings -- I haven't counted them, but I though they would cost more than that.



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