O/T Tired and fed up!

Even though the vast majority of the threads here still are great, I have found the past three weeks on this board particularly frustrating. Authors of threads that are off topic (and so marked) but many find to be interesting are being blasted. Forbid it that someone should post even a hint that they are looking for or have something for sale or they are rudely reprimanded for breaking the rules by the “forum Gestapo.” Particularly frustrating to me was when one responder this week did his best to correctly answer the question in the thread only to get jumped on for doing a disservice. The disservice was that there was another (supposedly better) solution for the problem in the question that he failed to mention, even though the question did not ask for alternative solutions and only eluded to the problem.

I’m now afraid to express an opinion about how to fix something for fear that if I recommend what might be the best way I will come across as a multi-millionaire trying to coax others into spending lots of money when there is a cheaper fix (even though it might be lower in quality and dependability). If I suggest an inexpensive “try and get by” fix with “bubble-gum and bailing wire” then I’m a penny-pincher that has all the time in the world to do things over and over again if my fix doesn’t hold. If I start a thread by posting a picture of something I have I’m bragging, but if I never start a thread I’m just someone waiting to pounce when someone is wrong.

For me this forum has degraded to the point that I’m loosing interest in it very quickly (please keep in mind that there may be others reading it that feel the same way). I can deal with off topic threads and an occasional item listed for sale in the discussion forum a lot easier (just don’t expand them) than responses by those of you that can’t seem to restrain your comments to constructively addressing the subject of a thread (be it off topic or not). If you don’t agree with a response to a thread, offer up your suggestion and let the person that started the thread make the decision as to his finances, time, capabilities, etc. and he can then act accordingly. If a thread is inappropriate here, one response politely stating that should suffice. My wish is that we all settle down and refrain from bantering and bashing one another and get back to politely discussing the ideas and topics that have made this a great forum and stop the bantering and smart remarks that serve no purpose.

By the way, for those of you that are muttering at me “if you don’t like it here, leave” all I will say is “be careful what you wish for”. End of sermon.

No, that happened back a few years. :>)

Allan

I think that a big Kudos or atta-boy-girl should go out to Kim for maintaining this high quality discussion board. I have responded politely when somebody blatently tries to sell something on this board. I don't feel that have been disrespectfull when I have done this.

Let's keep up the good discussions on here and make a good impression for those who are new to this board. I have never been embarrassed to post my messages as Randy in NE and I always try to uncover my e-mail address because I have gotten some responses off-line and I thank those individuals. Randy in NE

Look what I found over on the "other" side of the river. :>)

Thanks for you effort too, by the way.

Allan

I think I can match 'em up pretty good. I'm not doing the paint on the tractor; the boys are doing that in town at the local red shop.

But, I've got the same paint they do. :>)

Derned things were a little expensive, but it is better than looking at that big gapping hole in the side of the tractor. :>)

Allan

I really don't think you should leave, it will get better. It runs in cycles, we have had this before, it rears it's ugly head every 6 months to a year, then they go away. You do need a much thicker skin. Sure there will be guys disagree with you, most of them you ignor, with some you try and explain yourself just a bit better or at least in terms he understands. Then sometimes there is just no way around it, you got to take a strip off someone. Some will disagree, maybe even you, but that is just how it is. No point in holding back, it's just what some guys need.

So stick around, it will get better. Like you I don't get awfully concerned about the ocasional add showing up in discussions. One matter creating a lot more confusion the past while back, is photos on discussion that should be going to the photo gallery, 9 catergories there now, should just about cover everything, and there is much discussion going on over there.

Thanks for your response, it helps to know that this is probably a cyclical thing and that it will improve. :>)

I don’t plan to leave, 99+% of the people posting here make this board what it is and has been. I’m not going to let less than 1% chase me away!

If you have a big V-8 in your truck, you can push that to about every 5,000 miles.

Use 10w30 quality brand oil.

Use 30wt in your tractor if you work it in the summer.

Lately, I have noticed some negative comments, and it is disheartening. But, if the majority of us stay civil, we should be able to influence the board conduct, and continue to get a bunch of good information.

I think this board is, to the largest part, very informative and entertaining.

It is surprising sometimes in life whether it be a message board or the people you run into occasionally what takes the place of a helpful hand or common courtesy. If one ever has occasion to dig deeper into the background of these "know it all" scrooges one invariably encounters some sort of bitter, damaged or scarred personality for whatever reason. They expect to be treated harshly and their mind correspondingly just defaults to treating others the same way. The old saying of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." could stand to be given a spring cleaning and tried out in some peoples lives.

casey in SD

Sure can't imagine anybody jumpin' you over anything; you're pretty darned level-headed.

Now me and my big yap, on the other hand,..... well, some things in this life are just inevitable. :>)

Allan

casey in SD

Don’t worry about spelling or grammar as long as you get your message across. By the way, I’m one of the worst spellers around, but I use a handy little tool called Word to type my responses in. It checks spelling and grammar for me, then I just do a , (selects the text I just typed in Word) (Cuts the selected text from word) to the forum board, click in the reply message box and (pastes the selected text in the forum box) and I come off looking a whole lot better than if I just type it in myself. :>)

But I hope you'll take the time to still keep responding. It's only us "not so regulars" that you're hurting by keeping quiet. Some old dogs just can't learn new tricks.

Charles

If a forsale or wanted ad pops up in the wrong place, and you don't want to see the nasty replies, DON'T READ IT. The guy that posted the ad sure ain't readin' the replies. People like that are one-off posters, just here for the free ad. They don't care, and neither should you.

If someone offers advice that doesn't directly answer the question, so what? Maybe they're doing what you do, offering an OPINION? They've got just as much right to their opinion as to what's the best fix as you do to yours. Just because their opinion differs from yours doesn't mean that theirs is wrong, bad, or posted with malicious intent.

Loosen up a little.

Writing a little nasty on here is sure better than yelling at your kids. Many of the nasty's here are even followed by apologies (of sorts).

But for a bunch of guys who pride themselves on working on old tractors and scraping their knuckles every now and then we can sure be sensitive.