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Oh, Man! You Gotta See This!

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Allan in NE

02-28-2005 08:08:56




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Hey Guys,

A young feller over at the site on the other side of the street posted this picture.

Is that one sharp lookin' outfit, or what!?

Nothin' prettier than an old IH that has just crawled out of the shower.

Allan

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K.B.-826

02-28-2005 18:25:26




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:08:56  
According to the 86 series operator's manual, a narrow front end was avalible from the factory for the 886 only. That set-up would bolt under a 1086, but I have only seen one picture of an 886 narrow front ever, no question that they are extremely unusual. The 66 series also had a narrow front end option, which would bolt under an 86, but once again, very unusual. Those of you familiar with the 66, 86, and 88 series know that you can't just bolt up a narrow front to their bolsters. If you look very carfully at Allan's picture, you can tell that somone has adapted an entire 06/26/56 series bolster to that 1086. The shiney new bolts give it away, plus you can see one of the cast holes that the wide front would bolt up to. Wonder how it works, given the changes that were made to the steering system after the 26/56 series.

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Hugh MacKay

03-01-2005 04:28:54




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to K.B.-826, 02-28-2005 18:25:26  
KB: Quite clearly the 1086 in the photo would have little use other than tractor pulling. Having done most of my farming with Farmalls 560, 656 and 1066, plus a Deere 540A articulated forestry skidder. These were little more than 100 hp Deere technology using articulation with 4 wheels same size. With that experience and seeing the route agriculture is taking today, two tractors that have no more commercial value are pre factory 3 point hitch tractors plus two wheel drive tractors over 75 hp, and once you hit 125 hp articulation is the only way to go.

My new 1066 was delivered to me in 1975 on single wheels and with chloride. That tractor just has too much torque for 2 tires and at 1,000 hours the rear tires had so many bulges, one could not go down a paved road in high gear. Turning with large tillage equipment would roll the inside tire flat even with 18 lbs. air. The tractor would also leave wheel tracks in soil, tillage equipment would not smooth out. It caused the use of a lot of 4 letter words drilling grain or planting corn.

I then dumped the chloride, bought 4 new tires and a set of dual rims thinking my problems would be over. Yes the duals and new tires went 9,000 hours, also ended the wheel track problem. However a new problem came along, duals want to go straight ahead. From there it was a constant battle on brakes and front end parts. I once saw my operator drop a front wheel in a dead furrow and rather than roll the wheel went under soil surface. Didn't even slow 1066 down, we did recover the front wheel under the disk. I hate to see what would happen this narrow front, Farmall Hs and Ms didn't have a lot of weight out front compared to 1066 or 1086.

Since that time I have operated a lot of 4x4 tractors. Those 24 inch tires up front make them ride much better, and with power they turn much better. I can see the conventional 4x4 for harvesting equipment, but a lot of that is becoming self propelled. The reason I say articulated, much more economical steering system to maintain.

These old older, large, two wheel drive tractors just don't cut it anymore. Too expensive to play with and will not comptete in the field. Oh, you can say they are cheap to buy, yes I agree, but you start walking 1,000 to 1,500 hours per year on them, your trips to the parts counter wont be cheap.

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NDS

03-01-2005 06:29:24




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Hugh MacKay, 03-01-2005 04:28:54  
Hugh:

This gets back to different areas use different equipment. I have nieghbor that has 15 late model John Deere tractors from 150 HP up some are front wheel assist and some are rear wheel drive only but no articulated tractors. This is a family operation that has grown from 2 JD Gs forty years ago to an operation that farms and owns thosands of acres in 2 countys with millions of dollars worth of good late model equipment and you can be sure they are in no danger of foreclosure. They also own John Deere dealership and keep tractors, cotton pickers and combines only a few years then sell them and bring out new ones. Remember hearing person that started this operation remark years ago that no tractor that had had major repairs would ever start a crop for him and it seems to have worked for him.

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Allan in NE

02-28-2005 19:05:11




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to K.B.-826, 02-28-2005 18:25:26  
KB,

Did you notice that she is nosed downhill too? Bet it was set up to run the ol' "grandstand pulling" field. :>)

Allan



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klondike carl

02-28-2005 17:26:55




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:08:56  
My alltime favorite tractor to run I ran one of these all through high school on a dairy farm
Bailing hay ,discing stalks, or hauling manuer.
It really spoiled me ,now back on dads 400,450,706,1066.Kindof like climbing off the M and getting on an F20.



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Bryan Meade

02-28-2005 15:49:49




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:08:56  
oooh, oh,,,,daddy likes! :) . sharp looking tractor.



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Cliff Neubauer

02-28-2005 14:39:31




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:08:56  
I remember an article in Farm Show magazine a few years ago about a company offering an adaptor plate to put a 706 narrow front on an 86 series tractor for vegetable crop work.



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NDS

02-28-2005 10:59:35




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:08:56  
This has got to be Southern born tractor with the narrow front. Maybe Harold H will enlighten us on narrow fronts in the Delta.



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NDS

02-28-2005 10:58:44




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:08:56  
This has got to be Southern born tractor with the narrow front. Maybe Harold H will enlighten us on narrow fronts in the Delta.



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FmrBoy

02-28-2005 10:41:45




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:08:56  
Hey Allan, I hadn't ever seen a narrow front under one of these either. Wander if those are hard to come by, I bet they have to be heavier built to take the weight etc. I have never driven one that large either, my biggest tractor is a 706D and I love driving it. :) No cab on my old baby though!



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RustyFarmall

02-28-2005 08:53:01




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:08:56  
Allan, I wish you stop posting those pics. Every time I see one I want it. It is just amazing how good these old girls can look, beats the heck out of any new tractor you could buy today.



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Allan in NE

02-28-2005 09:15:05




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to RustyFarmall, 02-28-2005 08:53:01  
Hi Rusty,

Ain't that the darned truth? I don't like anteaters of any kind. Trucks, pickups and for darned sure not on a tracor.

'Nother thing I can't get used to is the Front Wheel Assist either. They may be the cat's meow, but not for this old lad. :>(

Allan



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John A.

02-28-2005 08:25:35




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:08:56  
Allan I do agree that she is sure enough a good looking tractor. I will add that I haven't seen a narrow front on a 1086 before. Saw a few 1066s in the late 70s at some tractor pulls! If for nothing more it sure is different from the usual.
Later,
John A. PS. Is your baby about to come home?



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Allan in NE

02-28-2005 08:50:52




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to John A., 02-28-2005 08:25:35  
Hi John,

Shoot, who knows? Maybe a grandstand tractor? I’ve sure never heard of a narrow front on one.

Not sure 'bout the baby. Might be breached and I might have to get out the old calf-pullin’ chains. :>(

I have a bunch of additional ‘odd-man-out’ type parts coming this week, so hope that they don't start throwin' paint at 'er just quite yet.

Although, gotta admit, I am startin' to get a little "antsy" over the old pup. :>)

Haven’t heard a 966 run since that day I crawled off my old one at the farm sale. Heck, who knows? I might even get a little emotional over this one; it has been a darned long wait. :>(

Allan

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John A.

02-28-2005 12:11:40




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:50:52  
Allan, Muffler or Straight pipe I hope it sound just like you remember, if not better!
Anyway... It Won't Be Long Now!
Later,
John A.



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terryger

02-28-2005 08:23:49




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 Re: Oh, Man! You Gotta See This! in reply to Allan in NE, 02-28-2005 08:08:56  
look more fetchin' than a fat hog on market day!



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