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Engine Gunk (H)

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PurdueAg

02-23-2005 20:07:14




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I am picking up the head for my H from the machine shop tomorrow (new valves, seats, etc), and a new set of rings. I am not planning to remove the block and have it cleaned. There is a significant buildup of gunk in the engine. I spooned-out several cups from the pan (hard and gray stuff). I know there"s more in the block. Is there anything I should do about engine gunk in the block before I put the head and pan back on? Otherwise, I was just planning to put the thing together, add some of that kersone-based stuff to the oil, run the tractor for five minutes, and then change the oil. My only concern is gumming up the oil channels, etc. Any advice?

Tony

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Georgia Boy

02-24-2005 07:37:46




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 Re: Engine Gunk (H) in reply to PurdueAg, 02-23-2005 20:07:14  
The machine shop I use charged $45 to clean and check a Farmall A block. I decided it had to be done because as I was trying to clean it myself I noticed that the paint (lacquer?) on the inside of the block was starting to flake and I was afraid it would continue to do so and cause serioud problems down the road.



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dej(JED)

02-24-2005 05:31:22




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 Re: Engine Gunk (H) in reply to PurdueAg, 02-23-2005 20:07:14  
It sounds like the oil was changed very little in the tractor. What you are describing is the oxidation byproducts of an aging motor oil. It is a good thing you got it when you did or it would have been total junk soon. Have it dipped because the kero flush won't get into the places you need cleaned.



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John M

02-24-2005 04:37:16




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 Re: Engine Gunk (H) in reply to PurdueAg, 02-23-2005 20:07:14  
paleriders suggestion is what I have done more than once.Also remove the lifter cover and do that area as well.What I usually do is,after that first scrubbing,I fill it up to level with ever how many quarts it takes of non detergent minus one quart,replacing it with detergent oil,run it a littlew while and then chenge the oil with two quarts of detergent and so on and so on until I finally have all detergent oil in,changing the filter each time.It can get expensive doing that so I use cheapoer oil until I gettop the final stages,and if its not to awful bad inside I use the filter through two changes.

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SproutW

02-24-2005 03:09:00




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 Re: Engine Gunk (H) in reply to PurdueAg, 02-23-2005 20:07:14  
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It's your money and time that you have put into the motor, so I don't want to tell you what to do. My machine shop charges around $60 to dip the block and it comes out nice and clean. This also insures that the block is not cracked anywhere or need decked. I've seen guys that didn't deck their blocks and could not get a head gasket to seal. Worst case would be all that gunk coming loose in the engine and destroying it. That gunk will easily clog up your oil passeges and burn up your entire motor. I think $60 would be a cheap insurance policy if it was my choice. You do want you want.

I've enclosed a picture of my F-20 block after it had been steam cleaned at the machine shop. The machine shop told me I needed to counterbore my block. I'm glad they found it and pointed it out to me to avoid future problems. It would have been a pain to strip the block down again to have the block counterbored. Anybody that has replaced a crank and main bearings in an F-20 or F-30 knows what I'm talking about. No worries now though.

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Pale Rider

02-24-2005 00:38:03




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 Re: Engine Gunk (H) in reply to PurdueAg, 02-23-2005 20:07:14  
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I'm sure you'll catch some flak for not doing the rest of the block though as far as I'm concerned that is entirely up to you. Some thing I would do however is to drop the oil pan and get that sediment cleaned out and make sure that the oil pump pickup is clean. I'd also recommend getting a can of liquid wrench or some time of solvent spray and spray around up there and give the insides a once over with a tooth brush or something. You'll get 90% of all that stuff out of there for the cost of an oil pan gasket, a can of spray and an afternoon. You'll feel better about the whole thing and you'll never be kicking yourself for not doing it when the opportunity was ripe.

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