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PAULIH300

02-23-2005 18:29:27




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Reading an earlier post makes me wonder....whats the legality of running a tractor on the main road? Do you need plates...do you need an escort...do you only need a slow moving sign? What happens if it hits something/gets hit? Sure sounds risky to me.




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Farmallkid From Ont,

02-24-2005 07:39:32




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
Here in Ontario you need a SMV sign, and some of the bigger tractors have fender light's that go over the duals. I just have a smv on my M, and use hand signal's when i turn. Some people don't care about tractors on the road. I was sreading manure with a 2394 case with a 6 speed jerkomatic transmission, and a 3600gal husky tank. The tractor had mirrors, so before i turned into the drive i would check if there was anyone behind me, one time there was a cop, so i waited intill the cars were done coming on the opposite side of the road, had my turn signal on, looked again the cop didn't move, so i started to turn into the drive, then all of a sudden the cop pulled out and i had to hammer on the brakes cause he almost hit my front tire, I made him drive almost all the way in the gravel, i was proud!. here is a pic of a combine that was traveling at night, Near ottawa Ontario. Itv wasin the country, there was a lady from the city driving at night, she was flyin, see hit the back and the combine rolled. It had Reflective tape, flashing light's, smv sign, and the cop light's. She said she didn't see it. She was either drivin a toyota car or truck, my friend who sent me the pic said he couln'd tell cause it was so wrecked.

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Hayshaker

02-24-2005 06:32:25




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
I live along a major 4 lane with what they call limited access which the accesses are approximately 1/2 mile intervals. The only way I can move my farm equipment is on this highway. The speed limit is 65 mph, but a lot of them are going in upwards of 80 mph. In daylight hours you are required to display a SMV sign and after sundown you also need an amber flashing light at the widest point of the left side of your equipment visible from the rear. I am currently designing rearview mirrors on my tractors as these "clowns" come right up behind you and it sure looks like they might run into me, and if I see them before they get that close I can get off on the shoulder sooner to let them by.

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Paul in Mich

02-24-2005 06:32:07




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
Paul, Requirements may vary from state to state, but here in Michigan, in addition to on road liability insurance, the only equipment requirement is the SMV sign, which is required on tractors and trailing equipment. Interstate highways are off limits. Since our operation is spread over three counties, we do a lot of road travel. While flashers arent required, I wont go down the road without them while driving anything that takes up more than one lane of traffic. We also do not move at night, even with lights, as other traffic has no idea how wide the equipment is. We used to use an escort vehicle, but have found that in most cases it creates more chaos than what good it does, as drivers seem to want to pass both tractor and escort vehicle at once. I also, once on the road, establish a lane, and do not pull over to allow trailing traffic to clear. That gives me some degree of predictability which weaving on and off the road does not. If I take up more more than one lane of traffic, especially oncomming traffic, I let them be the judge as to whether it is clear or not. Most of the time we trailer grain heads and corn heads to lessen the width of combines, unless we are going a very short distance on the road with them. Having said that, three years ago, one of the guys was taking a combine with a 20 ft grain head down a seldom travled dirt road, when some moron travling well over the speedlimit ploughed head on into the grain head. He was lucky he wasnt decapitated, as it tore the roof back like a sardine can. The widest thing I take down the road is a 20 ft grain drill, and while there have been some high anxiety moments, I"ve not experienced any mishaps. While most drivers are aware and understand farm equipment going down the road, there are always a few that think we have no business there and drive accordingly. I"d say that the elements of road travel with tractors or any farm equipment is to have good on road insurance, be will lighted (even in the daytime), have SMV signs, and be predictable, as well as watchful.

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SGT K

02-24-2005 04:39:10




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
The State of Illinois defines farm tractors under 625 ILCS 5/1-120 as every motor vehicle designed and used primarily as a farm implement for drawing wagons, plows, mowing machines and other implements of husbandry, ect.. Now, before you fire of an angry thread in my direction, this is how the State of Illinois defines them. Tractor drivers here where I am from (Effingham County), are not stopped or cited for simply driving them. Unless, perhaps, it is someone who is operating his tractor under the influence on the roadway because they have lost their license due to a DUI arrest. I do not believe, and this is my opinion only, that the State of Illinois recognizes farm tractors as a regular mode of transportation to be operated on the roadway without being engaged in animal husbandry.

Now I know I'm gonna catch heck for this, but I believe its something to be aware of.

That being said, I proudly drove dad's tractor to school during FFA week (many years ago), and I have been known to wash up my old H and drive it around the section just to show it off ;)
Paul

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Hugh MacKay

02-24-2005 04:16:29




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
Paul: Number one is liability insurance, doesn't matter where you are. You just never know when some clown is going to bump you. 50 years ago most everyone in a rural area knew tractors went slow. Todat 65% of drivers don't even know what a tractor is.

SMV sign is quite standard today. On the items of lights, lisence, etc. check with state or provincial authorities.

An item I'm seeing around here more and more is a light bar mounted on basically a trailer. To keep it light they use a compact truck rear end, put a 5' towing tongue on it, hook up an alternator to the pinion, add a battery, flasher and any assortment of lights you wish. Keep it light enough so you can unhitch and move by hand. The idea got started around here by grain farmers towing 2 and 3 grain wagons. They just grab this thing hook in on behind the tractor or the back wagon. When they get to field, as they drive past the loaded wagons waiting for them, they stop and hitch this to the loaded set. Down side is they don't have turn signals. They have got the blessing of police. Police are quite satisfied they can be seen. Only problem I see with this, if all antique tractor guys build one, fellows with S-10s, etc. will have to worry about coming out finding someone removed rearend from their truck.

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David in UT

02-23-2005 19:59:34




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
Paul,

I live in town that's still a bit rural for being so close to a main city, i.e. lots of horse property, not a lot of curb and gutter and such. I regularly take the C out on the road for a spin around town, and the cops here wave at me and drive on by. So far, I haven't been hassled at all...probably just the nature of the area I guess.

More to your question: no plates, no lights other than the stock lights, and I have a SMV sign, but I haven't attached it yet.

- David

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the tractor vet

02-23-2005 19:28:52




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
Around here ya need a SMV on the rear and flashing lites on the widest point if ya got duals on the flashing lites must be out as far as the duals . Now back years ago i was stopped two times by the state patrol , once for going over the SMV speed limit (25)mhp clocked me at over 55 mph and once for being to long . Don't know why just had the Farmall 450 one 269 N H baler two 18 ft. kicker wagons and on 45 foot elavator all hooked together he missed my buddy he had his 450 Two kicker wagons the haybine and the rake . we did not want to make a couple more trips to the farm that we were coustom baling at . Then the year that we were picking corn and hauling the gravity boxs to the scales to weigh them with the old Oliver SUPER 88 and i do mean super it had a 67 Ford 390 GT engine in it with a holley 735 4bbl and a price govener set for about 2650 and with a over ride for full throttel and that would get about 6 grand on the govener it would do over 30 mph > we were haulen about 6 miles round trip from the field to this guys farm that was buying corn off of us and we had the M D and the Oliver running the roads as they were the fastest , i was coming off the scales and ready to go on the road and looked to the norht and about a 1/2 mile down the road was a VW comming and i went ahead and pulled oout and stuffed the 88 into road gear and pulled the throttel open to the govener and was cruzen next thing i knew was this VW pulls up next to me and gives me the bird well he was doing about all he had and i though hey ya'll watch this and i pulled the throtel all the wat down and bypassed the gov. and here we go VW just started to lose ground and i held him out there with two gravity boxes full of ear corn for a long time then i figured that i had better slow down since the back box was tryen to use both lanes and i real did not want to shovel a load up littel did i know that behind me was SMOKEY E BEAR NOT GOOD i pull over and he and i have a long talk about tractor speed then he had to look at our shell we say barnyard engeneering. He finaly had to chuckel about it but he was a decent bear.

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Dave

02-23-2005 19:07:07




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
I asked a local police chief,he said ya had to have a slow moving sign.I live where you used to be able to have a ballgame in the road,and rarely need to worry about a car.In 15 years and a few hundred homes and a new high school,its almost scary.The new teen drivers,with the lastest high performance toys,likes to try em through here.I have to use the road to get to the property,else some kids or some gasoline seeking person would help themselves without asking.The insurance Lady told me I could get insurance to keep me covered,while driving them to the property also.Seems she said something about a blinking yellow light,and I notice the D.O.T. mowing tractors has flashing lights on theirs,but rarely on local tractors.

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Dave140

02-23-2005 18:56:42




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 Re: O/T Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
This id a little off the subject. I was in Ireland last spring and everywhere I went there werte tractors on the roads. Backroads and highways. Guys even drove them to the local pub. They regular traffic is crazy there. The average drivers were doing around 50 mph on dirt country roads. You"d come around a corner doing 50 in your car and almost run smack dab into a big FWD Ford or Massey with its bail spear pointing right at you. It amazed me that I never saw one accident. Dave

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CNKS

02-23-2005 18:45:49




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
I believe the SMV and flashers are required. Most tractor drivers will pull off the road to let traffic pass if they can. I cringe when I have to take one on a 2 lane with no shoulders, and don't unless it is a lightly traveled road. Even in farm country, there are enough inexperienced drivers that don't realize that most tractors only go 15-20 mph. Fortunately there aren't many accidents, probably because most modern tractors are big enough that only a fool would hit one, but there are some fools around.

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JOSSETTE

02-23-2005 18:35:31




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to PAULIH300, 02-23-2005 18:29:27  
you can not drive on the interstate or some states have roads tractors can not be on but all others are agricultural and you need a slow sign and headlights to keep the cops away.



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gascolator

02-24-2005 12:39:32




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 Re: Roadgoing IH Tractors in reply to JOSSETTE, 02-23-2005 18:35:31  
Round here the old boy who drives his tractor
from field to field usually has a spreader full
of cow product towed behind.

That seems to keep 'em from getting to close.

And if they do...well...hit the PTO!

(Works especially well for convertable Porsches.)



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