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Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?.

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Jonboy

02-21-2005 09:24:21




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Hello, went to a consignment auction and a guy had brought in a Farmall 350 diesel. It was in nice shape but the engine he said was cold blooded, even in the summer. He started it and it smoked a minute or two before straightening out and running smooth. I know diesels usually smoke on first start up, but this has me worried that maybe it's getting time for an overhaul if it starts hard in the summer too. Anybody have any experience with these and can tell me more about them. Also, were they hard on fuel?.
The reason I ask is because it didn't sell at the auction and is still there. Thanks for your help,

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Tractor Dan

02-22-2005 14:26:49




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 Re: Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?. in reply to Jonboy, 02-21-2005 09:24:21  
i have a 350 diesel and love it i did a motor job on it and yes parts wernt cheap but have you priced out a rebuild on any other diesel???? i got all my parts through the local auto parts store as i do for all my engine work its hard to justify paying the extra at the case ih dealer mine still starts alittle hard when temp drops but mainly becouse the old starter doesnt wip the engine over very quick if you roll it down a hill or tow it the old girl fires right up so im tring to find a high speed starter that will work
it has plenty of power for a small tractor i pull 3 14 inch plows with it 489 haybine 269 baler with 9x20 rack with ease and it is very easy on fuel
the biggest drawback it the tranny the old ih trannys have qite big jump between fourth and fifth gear and thats only a problem when pulling wagons up the road but the ta makes it much easier any other questions you can email me

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Tom in Mo.

02-21-2005 17:08:45




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 Re: Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?. in reply to Jonboy, 02-21-2005 09:24:21  
The 1957 Diesel 350 used the 193 cubic inch Continental engine which is expensive to rebuild but a good one to run as it has LOTS of power and a Roosamaster fuel pump. From '58 on IH used their own 166 cubic inch diesel. If you aren't interested in this tractor, let me know where it is as I may be interested in giving it a home.



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Hugh MacKay

02-21-2005 13:13:50




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 Re: Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?. in reply to Jonboy, 02-21-2005 09:24:21  
Jonboy: Have a friend with same experience as others, can't find engine parts for a 350 diesel.



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farmallhal

02-21-2005 10:06:17




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 Re: Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?. in reply to Jonboy, 02-21-2005 09:24:21  
As Charlie says I think you will find the engine rebuild parts very difficult to find and very expensive if they can even be found. I know of one person going through this now and has only found them in bits and pieces all over the country. Did find the pistons and sleeves only for $1350 but that was it. Bearings from someone else on the west coast, and still looking for balance of parts which are generally available in a rebuilt kit from many sources. Thought this would be wise to share before you have the same problem.

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Charlie M

02-21-2005 09:36:52




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 Re: Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?. in reply to Jonboy, 02-21-2005 09:24:21  
My Dad had one in the 60's. It took a shot of starting fluid even in the summer on many mornings but after that it ran fine and started fine the rest of the day. Even ran fine in the winter once he got it running. It may have not created much interest at the auction as I'm hearing parts are difficult to get and expensive for the engine.



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Jonboy

02-21-2005 09:55:43




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 Re: Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?. in reply to Charlie M, 02-21-2005 09:36:52  
Did they have good power or were they kinda weak?.



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Evan350

02-21-2005 12:13:25




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 Re: Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?. in reply to Jonboy, 02-21-2005 09:55:43  
I have no complaints about the power of my 350D. My other tractor is a MF35 diesel... The 350D has more power than the MF35...I can drag the Bush Hog through taller, thicker stuff with the 350D than the MF35.



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farmallhal

02-21-2005 16:11:53




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 Re: Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?. in reply to Evan350, 02-21-2005 12:13:25  
Evan, What size Bush Hog are you pulling behind those tractors? Dad has an older MF 165 (gas) I use sometimes when working over around his fuel tank as I use my diesel on the other end of the farm when near my fuel source. His 165 has problems with a 9 foot cut at times in late spring and I think it has about 52 hp. His 165 needs to go in for lunch also as it uses a lot of fuel. The diesel I use is a Ford 5610 with 65 hp and nothing makes it even grunt with the same 9 footer and will run 3 times as long on the same amount of fuel. My brother-in-law has a 8 foot cut he pulls with his M and that is about all it wants at times. I've never hooked the 9 footer up to my M so don't know what it would do. Thanks, Hal

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Evan350

02-22-2005 07:18:22




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 Re: Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?. in reply to farmallhal, 02-21-2005 16:11:53  
Its a Bush Hog 285 (5' medium duty). A bit heavy for the MF35 actually; on uneven ground the front end of the MF35 will bounce up. The Farmall 350 keeps its feet planted better since it has about 2000lbs over the MF35.



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Charlie M

02-21-2005 12:30:41




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 Re: Farmall 350D, were those cold blooded?. in reply to Evan350, 02-21-2005 12:13:25  
My Dad pulled 3-16 inch plows with his. Only time I ever saw it have a problem was late spring in sod that had started to grow and trying to plow up hill - wasn't quite enough tractor for that.



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Jonboy

02-21-2005 09:33:56




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 And I'd also like to add in reply to Jonboy, 02-21-2005 09:24:21  
It's a rowcrop, not a utility. Not sure if that makes a difference in the engines used or not
Thanks!



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Evan350

02-21-2005 12:08:51




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 Re: And I'd also like to add in reply to Jonboy, 02-21-2005 09:33:56  
The 350D Farmall and Utility both have the Continental 4-193 diesel engine--unique to this series of IH tractors. I have a 350D Farmall...as long as the temp is above 40 mine fires right up with little cranking. Smokes like crazy at first, but it clears up as it warms up. Below 40 I don't try...my other tractor is a MF35 with a block heater...



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Jonboy

02-21-2005 12:30:32




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 Re: And I'd also like to add in reply to Evan350, 02-21-2005 12:08:51  
What does the 450D have for an engine?. I'm scared off the 350D already. I need a tractor for maple sugaring and I need one thats going to start good for me and not be difficult to find parts for, the 350D sounds like a nightmare.
Thanks a bunch for your help!. I appreciate everyones advice, now I know why that tractor didn't sell.



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Novel Idea Guy

02-21-2005 16:29:23




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 Re: And I'd also like to add in reply to Jonboy, 02-21-2005 12:30:32  
The 450 Diesel has the same "start-on-gas, switch-to-diesel" style engine as the MDs and other diesel Internationals.



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Evan350

02-21-2005 15:16:07




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 Re: And I'd also like to add in reply to Jonboy, 02-21-2005 12:30:32  
Well, parts will be more common than for the 350D since the motor in the 450D was carried with little change from the MD and WD-6 through the 400D to the 450D. Maybe you"d prefer a later diesel with glow plugs, such as the 544.



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the tractor vet

02-21-2005 16:32:08




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 Re: And I'd also like to add in reply to Evan350, 02-21-2005 15:16:07  
Don't bet the farm on that one , main bearings are getting in short supply as they are not amde anymore . And from what i have seen on the old md thru 450 and WD 9- 650 , TD6 TD 9 TD 14 and then tryen to find a good crank if ya need one is a night mare as all the ones that i have found the thrusts are wore out and they do not make and over size thrust bearing , now you have tomuch crank walk . But i am to fussy when it comes to engine building.

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