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r4etired

02-05-2005 17:40:29




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Question regarding a previous post, The last H's built had disc brakes, did they also have the 164 and the faster 4th or just the brake change. Another thing I found out the constant mesh gear in a Super H is about a 1/8 inch wider than a regular H. The H gear will work just isn't quite as wide.




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CNKS

02-05-2005 18:09:09




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 Re: CNKS H question in reply to r4etired, 02-05-2005 17:40:29  
There is some controversy about when the various changes took place. I believe Hugh McKay thinks some of them were applied much earlier than the parts book says. But, according to the parts book, the faster 3rd and 4th speeds were not available in the straight H, in fact the so called 7 mph 4th in the H became a 6 5/8 4th in the Super H. 1st, 2nd,and 5th are also faster in the Super H. And, in addition to the faster 4th, 3rd in the SH is almost as fast as 4th in the H (5 vs 5 1/8). Not much change in the others. I have not compared the gears in the parts book, but part of the increased speed in 1st and 2nd as listed in the Operators Manuals was probably due to larger tire size, 11 vs 10 inch--don't know how much the 1 inch additional width affected the circumference and resulting speed, probably not much. So the different transmission gears and C164engine were not "supposed" to be in the H, but since I have never seen much less driven any of the last few hundred models, I can't say for sure. I do think if I ever see a late serial H, I will probably buy it, as the brakes alone make it somewhat of a rarity.

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DWV

02-05-2005 19:26:14




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 Re: CNKS H question in reply to CNKS, 02-05-2005 18:09:09  
CNKS you are right,if engine or gear ratio changes were made they never made it to parts book. If he has a late H it does have other parts same as super H other than disc brakes. Flywheel, clutch,trans input shaft and bearing,main shaft front bearing,axles,crankshaft larger journal and other things.also should have starter with switch operated by rod.The SH has a bigger diameter trans. countershaft that 1-2&3-4 gears press onto.
Gears can be interchanged between H&SH but you have to change countershaft and use gears that match shaft.All SH ratio or all H ratio.

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DWV

02-05-2005 20:55:20




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 Re: CNKS H question in reply to DWV, 02-05-2005 19:26:14  
After thinking a little,not sure about countershaft being different.Memory may be mixed
up with SM.



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