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Leon

02-04-2005 06:33:13




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What would one be measuring to determine the plow size? For example, 3-14". Would this mean that the plow has 14" shares? Can a 3-14" be easily converted to a 3-16". Thanks in advance for your reply.




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paul

02-05-2005 01:15:52




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 Re: Plow Size in reply to Leon, 02-04-2005 06:33:13  
Modern plows can be adjusted on the fly while plowing. Older plows only a few can be adjusted, and even then it takes work - each bottom would need to be rebolted, the angle changed of the beam, and the hitch moved.

I'm not so familiar with the Red plows, but basically no, the older plows were not adjustable from one size to another here in the USA. Many parts can be interchangable, but the plow frame determines the size of the plow you have. Even if you bolt a 16 inch lay onto a 12 inch bottom (possible on some models) you still have a plow that plows a 12 inch furrow, for example. In tough alfalfa roots or the like, you would be well off with the bigger lays, but it won't add to the width of ground you flip over.

--->Paul

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Hugh MacKay

02-04-2005 17:10:56




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 Re: Plow Size in reply to Leon, 02-04-2005 06:33:13  
Leon: All IH plows built at Hamilton ON Canada, had adjustable frames and could be adjusted. In most cases there were 2 different size frames. Small would adjust 10", 11", 12" and 14". The large frame would adjust 12", 14" and 16". That is not to suggest you could use all settings. There were 3 sizes of frogs and moldboards Small could be used 10", 11" or 12" , medium 12" or 14 " and large 14" or 16". My two bottom fast hitch plow for 140 has setting from 10 to 14 inches on frame, the moldboards however will only plow 10", 11" or 12". This design made it possible to make up numerous plows from given warehouse stock.

If your in Canada, information Hal, Allan and Rusty have given you is quite likely wrong. Rusty knows this. If you are near the border on either side, it could be either way. The US built plows prior to 1960 have diagnol cross members in plow frame. The Canadian built plow has perpendicular cross members that are made of 2 pieces of steel that overlap.

On trailer plows the Canadian plow has a reduction cog on each lever giving you finer settings. The lever is two piece hinged in the middle with 3 settings at this point, thus allowing you to switch quickly from a Farmall to a W series tractor and still have lever within reach.

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Allan in NE

02-04-2005 18:18:36




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 Re: Plow Size in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-04-2005 17:10:56  
Aw Heck Hugh,

Everybody knows I'm wrong about 95% of the time anyway. :>)

Later,

Allan



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Hugh MacKay

02-04-2005 23:59:02




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 Re: Plow Size in reply to Allan in NE, 02-04-2005 18:18:36  
Allan: I rather question that opinion. I see these plow questions involving plows prior to 1960, and there are not a lot of people don't realize the difference, other than near border. I didn't until I realized one day on discussions here. Another guy and I were discussing No. 8 trailer plows, I realized we were not discussing the same plow.

The US plow was called a Little Genius No. 8 plows, while the Canadian version was called just a No. 8 tractor plow. I have searched through literature from both plows and that is always terminology used.

There are a few items built at Hamilton like this, used the same model number as the US version, yet the implements were a bit different. Tractors are no problem as none other than a few crawlers were ever built at Hamilton.

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Mike Layman, Maryland

02-04-2005 13:06:06




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 Re: Plow Size in reply to Leon, 02-04-2005 06:33:13  
14 inches refers to the distance, center to center, between the shanks. If you would draw perpindicular lines from the front of the plow to the rear at the center of the shanks, the lines would be 14 '' from each other. Also, the manufacturer lines up the hitch so that when the tractor furrow wheel in in the furrow, the first furrow would be 14 inches. Most plows had different holes in the hitch so that this could be adjusted. This was absolutely necessary when they still built plows in the horse days. The Amish use dollies to convert tractor plows to horse plows and I bet they have to adjust the hitch to make it all work.

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RustyFarmall

02-04-2005 07:16:39




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 Re: Plow Size in reply to Leon, 02-04-2005 06:33:13  
No, a 3-14s cannot be turned into a 3-16s.



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Allan in NE

02-04-2005 06:42:31




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 Re: Plow Size in reply to Leon, 02-04-2005 06:33:13  
Hi Leon,

A 3/14 would be a 3 bottom plow cutting a 14" swath per bottom. Easily measured across beam to beam and (usually) not changeable.

Allan



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El Toro

02-04-2005 06:40:35




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 Re: Plow Size in reply to Leon, 02-04-2005 06:33:13  
I think if you measure from the landslide across to the trailing edge of the plow point will be 14
inches. I think the width of of the plow furrow
is 14 inches too. I don't think the hole pattern would be the same between the 14 and 16 inch plow shares. Hal



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