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Evaluating pistons/sleeves and bearings

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TKN

01-29-2005 17:49:22




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This is a first time rebuild for me, so sorry if this is a dumb question.

I am rebuiding a B Farmall. One piston was stuck, but some s few good hits with a wood block freed it up. I have removed all four pistons and rods from the crankshaft. The top of two of the pistons are slighly pitted but seems very minor. The sleeves look to be in good shape. Can I just put new rings on and put in back together and have good results?

How do I evaluate if I need new pistons and brearings on the crankshaft? If I need new crankshaft bearings, how do I account for wear?

Thanks for any advice!

TKN

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dph

01-29-2005 18:34:06




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 Re: Evaluating pistons/sleeves and bearings in reply to TKN, 01-29-2005 17:49:22  
I smart guy once told me the first place to check for wear with sleeves and pistons is to see if there is carbon between the first and second ring. Often the sleeve, if well maintained, might not show too much wear. Where wear occurs though is spent fuel pushing between the first ring and the piston. The second ring will then be the one giving compression. If this is happening you will find carbon between the two rings. If you find carbon there, then it is alsoin the groove of the piston, and the groove is going to get wore in a hurry. My 2 cents is: if you find carbon there, new pistons and rings. If you feel a lip on the sleeve like Bob said, new sleeves. It is really a question of how much you want to spend, but now that you are in there, I would give it all that it needs. Good luck.

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Bob

01-29-2005 18:14:29




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 Re: Evaluating pistons/sleeves and bearings in reply to TKN, 01-29-2005 17:49:22  
If the pistons LOOK good, measure the diameter across the skirt, and compare it to spec's. Check the piston ring grooves for wear.

If the sleeves are badly worn (MAJOR ridge at the top of ring travel, and diameter beyond wear limits), you'll need to replace them, a lesser ridge must be removed with a ridge reamer, or you risk breaking the new rings. If re-using the sleeves, use a glaze breaking hone to make a nice new crosshatch pattern to help the new rings seaat.

Check the old bearing inserts for undersize markings. (Originals will be labelled STD for standard, undersize will be labelled .001, .002, .003, .010, .020, etc.).

Then mic. the crankshaft journals, and verify how far it is from original or specific undersize specs.. Be sure to check the jounals for "out-of-round", as they tend to wear "eggshaped".

If the crank is within wear limits, and has no deep grooves, scratches, or roughness, order new bearings according to the measured rod and main journal diameters.

When assembling with new bearings, verify the oil clearances with Plastigage.

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