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The Height of Ambition

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Allan in NE

01-19-2005 06:00:07




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Mornin' All,

Somebody out there has a sense of humor anyway. :>)

Allan

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JT

01-19-2005 14:16:31




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 06:00:07  
Allan,
Now, why are you pickin' on that poor little Cub, he is just try to do what he is told to do, it is not his fault he thinks he has enough power to pull that plow. He is just a typical IH product, will do more than what he was supposed to do.



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Allan in NE

01-19-2005 14:55:55




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to JT, 01-19-2005 14:16:31  
Hmmmm,

Yeah, guess you're right. I even had one today try to crawl up on the garage roof. :>)

Allan

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farmallman

01-19-2005 12:31:09




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 06:00:07  
What year is that Cub? Is the muffler under the tractor normal (like factorie) of an addition



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Jimmy King

01-19-2005 09:53:20




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 06:00:07  
A friend of mine used to spread lime and fertlizer. He got stuck onced he said I could go half way across the field, but couldn"t get out of the ruts. Still had most of the load on. The farm owmers son came walking over the hill saw the problem, told Ken I will go get the farmall, came back with a cub, didn"t work.



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Hugh MacKay

01-19-2005 10:52:55




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Jimmy King, 01-19-2005 09:53:20  
Jim: A number of years ago just across highway from my place a guy backed off the roadway with Louisville 9000 and 53' tri axle flat bed trailer. He had backed into about 6 to 8 inches of snow. He backed in to unload some material and not realizing tractor tandems were on hard ice from a previous storm. He could see equipment in my yard that could pull him out, so he sent a helper to see if I would come.

At the time I had Farmall 130 running. I asked if truck was close enough to black top that tractor could pull from asphalt. He said yes so I just went with 130. The guy who came to get was having a good laugh as he knew a bit about little Farmalls. When we got to truck, truck driver just laughed, " That little thing wont even tighten the chain, go get some of your real machinery." To which I replied, "Hook your damn chain on." He did and I watched as he got in cab, soon as he hit the park brake air button, I dropped the clutch not giving him time to get Louisville in gear. Of course once I got him moving he never did get truck in gear. There is one trucker got a good lesson not to make fun of little Farmalls. He did insist I take $20. I guess I should have taken 1066 and charged him a $100.

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Jimmy King

01-20-2005 02:30:17




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-19-2005 10:52:55  
Hugh, you forget I grew up on a Super A gutsey little tractor. Our total farm granddad, uncles is gently rolling to serious hills 2 1/2 miles to the feed mill we used, had a 100 bu. grain o vater auger wagon. Pulled it to town loaded with corn back with ground feed in to the muck and mire of hog pens, twice a day. From the highway to my Grandads it was a mile first 1/2 mile about a 4% grade, would be way up it before I had to drop a gear. Pull lots of 100 bale loads of alfalfa out of the field top the barns.

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Hugh MacKay

01-20-2005 03:31:55




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Jimmy King, 01-20-2005 02:30:17  
Jim: Sadly those little tractors had the ability to do far more than they were ever designed for. Many of them got abused beyond belief. I remember my dad pulling a 140 bushel manure spreader with Farmall 130. Our first bale thrower wagons were 20'x 8' x 8', usually about 150-40 lb bales. Normally we pulled those to barn with Cockshutt 540. However when raking was done and Frank had 300 on baler up around 3-4 strokes to the bale, the 130 hauled some wagons and up a 15% grade.

My dad had a brother, milked 20 aryshires plus replacments on roughly 100 acres. Did all his work with Super A including pto baling with a 67 NH baler. Forked all the manure by hand, raised 9 children and had time to travel the countryside singing in a male choir. Dad always said something was wrong he had 40 holsteins, 3 tractors, 5 boys, loaded the manure with a loader and didn't have time to sing in the choir.

Then we listen to guys tell us you can't have too much horse power. I can show you finincial statments showing we made far more money when farm was under powered than when adequately or over powered. Today one must come in at less than 1/4 hp per acre to compete in the marketplace. Uncle Wallace was doing that 50 years ago, with his Super A.

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Allan in NE

01-19-2005 11:49:42




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-19-2005 10:52:55  
Hmmm, I'll be darned.

They never ever looked to me like they had power or weight enough to even pull a sickle bar. :>)

Allan

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Hugh MacKay

01-19-2005 14:56:56




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 11:49:42  
Allan: In my home town, we used to have tractor pulls, before the days of these automated sleds. Ours was a stone boat made from 4' x 10' sheet of 3/4 plate. We had boxes of sand, two sizes 200# and 100#, men put them on by hand and you had to start away with full load you chose. After each suceessful pull they would add more as you wished. The winner no matter how big or small was the tractor that could pull the highest percentage of it's weight with operator added in. The tractors to beat were Farmalls SA, H, SH and Cockshutt 30. They will all come in around 3 times their own weight. The M, SM big 6 cylinder Cockshutts and Olivers usually get stumped at around 2.75 to 2.8. of course we young teenagers at that time got regelated off to the little tractors. I've seen guys come there with big Cockshutts and Olivers, more weight added than SA or indeed even the H or 30 weighed. We've also seen a lot of disappointed age 30 something tractor drivers.


Granted we teenagers did have more time to practice. It was a lot of fun. Then they started letting more than one guy pull the same tractor. That kind of ended tractor pulling. I remember my dad's H came home with the clutch toast, as did a few other tractors. The guys paying the bills suddenly decided we needed a less finincally demanding sport.

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Hugh MacKay

01-19-2005 09:24:50




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 06:00:07  
Allan: I don't see a whole lot wrong, plow is in transport lock, and he is just about to move it. Maybe going to put plow out by road with a for sale sign. Maybe he finished plowing and hooked 806 to disk, then decided he needed plow moved. Cub would do it faster than unhooking again.

I used to have a drawbar, 3 point adaptor for my Case 1737 skid steer. (quick attach where bucket goes) Skid steer had aux hydraulic valve. Best machine I ever saw for putting equipment in shed for winter. I'm sure that caused a few laughs when people driving by saw that hooked up to 5 bottom semi mount, 20' disk or 25' cultivator.

Any of you who bought a new 1066 will remember there was a recall on rocker arm assembly. Mine broke a rocker arm before they got to it. Happened in the middle of field, similar conditions to that photo. Called dealer, he informed me he had complete new assembly in shop for my tractor. He wanted me to tow tractor back to my shop, they would right out. As all my other tractors were busy, the young operator and I unhooked the disk. We then proceeded to tow 1066 off field, (about 500' to black top) with Super A. The only real problem we encountered was getting that 1066 hydrostatic steering to steer without engine running. I had to stop several times and shift over to pull at angle in direction he had to steer. We landed 1066 in shop. Now that was a lot more pull for a SA than that Cub is doing, even if you consider weight percentage. No, Allan those little Farmalls will pull a higher percentage of their own weight than the big ones will.

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Allan in NE

01-19-2005 09:37:49




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-19-2005 09:24:50  
Hi Hugh,

I see a lot of 1066 owners complaining about split push rods when they use their 10s for light loader duty.

It this what that update was about?

Thanks,

Allan



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Hugh MacKay

01-19-2005 10:23:44




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 09:37:49  
Allan: My tractor broke a rocker arm at probably less than 150 hours on meter. Several other rocker arms were cracked. What the technician came with for replacment was complete shaft complete with all new rocker arms. The assembly was complete, just unbolted the old shaft and set complete new one in, then adjust valves. I didn't stay right with him, but I never saw any push rods. I do remember the shaft and new rocker arms were substancially heavier than the original. I do remember him telling me the originals were same as in 966. They seemed to be blaming this on the turbo. What alway puzzled me on this it was Oct. 1975, 1066s would have been on the go three years by then. I would have thought recalls on this would have happened in 72 or 73 and that 74 and 75 would have come from factory corrected.

The other item one must consider is my 1066 dynoed 160 hp new at dealers. It came from factory that way and 3 or 4 times after that it remained at or near 160. At about 8,000 hours I loaned it to a neighbor who's new Deere 4630 had a little fire under dash. He was doing haylage. When he brought 1066 home, I asked how it worked for him. He replied. " It makes that bloody Deere look sick." This guy was a dyed in the wool DEERE man. He had heart problems later in life, doc installed a pacemaker. He had more problems with that damn pacemaker, than a dog has flees. Someone suggested to the John Deere dealer, maybe John Deere should consider building a pacemaker. They felt if our friend had a pacemaker with Deere stamped on it, his health would improve. He is still going strong, don't know the make of pacemaker.

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George Willer

01-19-2005 08:41:06




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 06:00:07  
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So you guys don't have to guess who did it, here's a clue... a picture of the Wisconsin owner of that French Super Cub. Anybody else know this guy?

George Willer



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Hendrik

01-20-2005 04:16:41




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to George Willer, 01-19-2005 08:41:06  
George,
I know this man well. We went to see a Super Cub that was for sale in The Netherlands (where I live) and also met him during the Nordhorn, Germany RPRU in 2002. He is a respectable IH collector and a very sympathetic person. He posts regularly on the Red Power Magazine forums.
Hendrik



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George Willer

01-20-2005 06:33:40




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Hendrik, 01-20-2005 04:16:41  
Hendrik,

Yes, I know him fairly well too. We've met at several IH events and he visited here in Ohio when we hosted the first CubFest in 2003. It's interesting that none of the experts on this list noticed that it was a French Super Cub.

George Willer



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Allan in NE

01-19-2005 08:46:22




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to George Willer, 01-19-2005 08:41:06  
George,

Will ya get outta the way so I can get a better peek at that little lass behind ya? :>)

Allan



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Dave (IL)

01-19-2005 07:22:01




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 06:00:07  
Allan, they're lighter and more streamlined without that "top half" you always pull around.



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Allan in NE

01-19-2005 07:28:22




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Dave (IL), 01-19-2005 07:22:01  
By Golly Dave,

I think you might be right.

I'm always makin' fun of the drylanders and their "half-plows" and they make fun of me staunchly defending the spinners.

I guess we all get 'er done, tho, either way. :>)

Maybe I need to start a new argument; who would ever put a disc in behind a plow? LOL!

Allan



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Sloroll

01-19-2005 06:16:24




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 06:00:07  
Yup! Way to early to have pulled that thrashing machine out!



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TimV

01-19-2005 06:04:51




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 06:00:07  
(snicker) You're right, Allan! Imagine someone pulling that plow with a Cub and no front weights....



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Allan in NE

01-19-2005 06:42:48




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to TimV, 01-19-2005 06:04:51  
I'm so far behind the times.

Must be some kind of new technology that lets the hydraulics work without the hoses even being attached.

I thought the guy that took the picture was pretty darned funny with this stunt. :>)

Allan



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FM

01-19-2005 22:17:27




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Brian in NY, 01-19-2005 07:20:52  
Yea, any JD is about as underpowered on a 1 bottom plow as that cub is on that 3 bottom..... ..

JK!~~~ a 730D is one of few JDs I'd like to have in my collection...


Mike



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Andy Martin

01-19-2005 07:12:02




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 Re: The Height of Ambition in reply to Allan in NE, 01-19-2005 06:42:48  
So look on the positive side. The guy has his 1486 in the field and he is pulling the plow home and back with the disk using the Cub to save fuel. With gasoline cheaper than diesel the Cub makes sense. Of course watch out for hills. And I think I'd gotten the plow to firm ground before letting the little "Cub who could" take over. With road gear the way it is on a Cub, the house must be just behind the trees.

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