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The Best Paint???????

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Jim Lockhart

01-17-2005 20:51:40

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Ok I have read just about every post on the board on this topic,so here is the deal.

The wife had a 1947 Farmall H gave to her that was her Grandpas,we are restoring in his memory.She wants it to be all shinny etc etc etc.

So what I want to know is:I want the paint job to be all shinny,yet durable and I don't want to have to repaint it in 5 or so years.It will be shed kept,so the only sun it will see is at shows and at our club's plow day and other misc yard uses at home(mowing the yard lol).

WHAT DO I NEED OR WANT IN WAY OF BRAND,AE OR AU ETC ETC ETC????? ????? ????? ????? ????? ????

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

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MY2CENTS

01-19-2005 20:30:13

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to Jim Lockhart, 01-17-2005 20:51:40

Just remember, what ever you hear in this place or anywhere else doesn't override manufacturers directions. If this is your first paint job you may get lucky and it turns out great, but it might look like crap too. The brand of paint will have no effect over your own ability. As a retired body man I can give you this advice, find a ex-painter who can help you or leave the million dollar shine to the pro's. You can waste your time, money and endanger your health messing with chemicals you have no experience with...

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Larry in CO

01-18-2005 20:07:17

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to Jim Lockhart, 01-17-2005 20:51:40

I painted my "46 H with IH 2150 paint and no hardener about three years ago. I used a cheapie gun from Home Depot and had never painted any sheet metal before. Click below for a picture of the results - this was taken this past July 4th, so the paint was about 2 1/2 years old at that time. Larry

'46 H on July 4th

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Wayne Swenson

01-18-2005 07:29:59

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to Jim Lockhart, 01-17-2005 20:51:40

I have used IH 2150 with hardner and clear coat for an outstanding look.
One of our threshing show members is a professional body man & he uses the same process.
Good luck

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CNKS

01-18-2005 07:14:09

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to Jim Lockhart, 01-17-2005 20:51:40

By the way the correct color for a 1947 model is IH 50, not available from Case-IH, PPG number is 70019, DuPont 7410.

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jonesy

01-18-2005 06:02:11

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to Jim Lockhart, 01-17-2005 20:51:40

Dupont Emron or the econo line Nason 2K hands down the most durable and glossy one stsge paint.

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CNKS

01-18-2005 06:55:12

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to jonesy, 01-18-2005 06:02:11

Or, PPG Omni.

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jason(ma)

01-18-2005 14:46:27

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to CNKS, 01-18-2005 06:55:12

or ppg concept,

sorry couldn't resist

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f20 in mi

01-18-2005 04:21:10

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to Jim Lockhart, 01-17-2005 20:51:40

For sure durability, I would suggest DuPont Imron. It's the sames pint used on over the road trucks and industrial equipment. You probably won't have to paint the tractor again in your lifetime if you did the prep right. A gallon covered my F20 without a problem. Get ready for the cost however. It will set you back about $200 for gallon of paint and the catalyst. You will have to where a respirator also. A gas mask isn't good enough.

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Slappy

01-18-2005 03:59:13

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to Jim Lockhart, 01-17-2005 20:51:40

I recommend that you use a good acrylic enamel. The synthetic enamels are OK if your tractor will not be in the sun (they fade), but acrylics will give you longer lasting shine.

I don't know anything about IH paint, but at $38 per gallon it sound like it may be a synthetic. Acrylic enamel is expensive, probably $60 to $100 per gallon, but because you will cut it 2 or 3 to 1 with reducer (most synthetics contain less pigment are cut less), it goes further than you think. Depending on the gun you use, and how far you intend to disassemble your tractor to paint, I would guess that you will need 1 to 3 gallons.

I don't recommend shooting a clear coat unless you are pretty good. Clear coats are thin and run easily. Hardener is a good idea - but be careful of the fumes especially if you paint indoors.

Good luck, let us know how it turns out.

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CNKS

01-18-2005 07:12:18

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to Slappy, 01-18-2005 03:59:13

I have not used IH 2150. My understanding it is a "acrylic modified" enamel. I have heard that it is much better than the usual tractor store synthetic enamel, but not as good as PPG or DuPont. Acrylic urethane is better than acrylic enamel, both are available in all of PPG's and Dupont's lines as well as Sherwin Williams and Martin Senour. Imron is fine, also more expensive. If you use hardened paint, a supplied air system is essential, even for a one-shot deal, as you have no way of knowing how the isocyanates in the hardener will affect you. Slappy, I should have responded to the original post -- type too slow to want to redo this. PPG Omni Acrylic enamel ratio is 4:1, 4 parts paint to one part reducer, the hardened version is 8:1:1, 8 parts paint 1 part reducer, 1 part hardener, overall dilution is still 4:1 though. Varies from brand to brand. I use PPG Omni, considering switching to DuPont Nason, as my PPG dealer seems to get it too orange (PPG 71310, 2150 equivalent). A DuPont rep tells me that DuPont 96766 (same code as Imron for the 2150 equivalent) does not have an orange tint

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Migraine

01-17-2005 21:50:34

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to Jim Lockhart, 01-17-2005 20:51:40

Get the real deal. Go I.H. 2150 Rouge red at about 38 bucks a gallon. Yes thats right a gallon. Add a little hardener and shoot 2 or 3 light coats all over that thing (except for the silver rims and black axles off course). It dries fast so you can recoat in 2 hours and when done with red shoot 2 light coats of clear coat on it. Wait 3 months and put a good coat of wax on her and comb your hair in the reflections off the hood . The painter is finishing up a 400 Farmall today. Saw it at noon. It will be bright and very red!

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CNKS

01-18-2005 07:24:02

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to Migraine, 01-17-2005 21:50:34

I'm not starting an argument, at least I don't intend to, but with quality paint, you apply a coat, let it flash, about 15 minutes, and do the same thing twice more. In other words you apply at 15-20 minute intervals (at 70 degrees), thus you are done in about an hour. This procedure is in the spec sheets that should be studied before using any paint. I don't use "tack" or light coats, but have found that three full coats work quite well. Anyone can disagree, I follow the procedures as stated by the manufacturer.

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Gordo

01-18-2005 09:19:42

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Re: The Best Paint??????? in reply to CNKS, 01-18-2005 07:24:02

CNKS is correct. Use either of the ueretahnes. MUCH beeter than the OLD acrylic enamels. Recommend a one stage paint , no clear coats.
When spraying you wait til you can just rub the BACK of your index finger along the surface, then recoat. Try to get extra coat on the sharp convex areas, as this is where you will polish off the most. 95 % of a great looking paint job is done BEFORE you apply the paint. Proper primers and sealers. When you buy paint be sure and get the mfg "counter guide" or spec sheet and follow the instructions! Then heat the shop up to 70 degrees minimum and start painting

Gordo

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