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Hay Stacking Question for Allen???

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SuperCmore

01-12-2005 09:56:32




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Allen, being from Missouri, I'm not familiar with this "hay stacking" deal. Did you mow and windrow the hay and then just drive along the windrow till you had a load and then go put it somewhere in the field? Why not use small, round baler?? Guess you don't get much rain in Western Nebraska, but in NE Missouri, if you stacked loose hay, you'd have nothing but a big pile of manure by the next spring. How did you feed from the stack? With the same stacker?? Just curious and thanks for the pic. Cmore

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Ron in Nebr

01-12-2005 21:53:57




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 Re: Hay Stacking Question for Allen??? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 09:56:32  
If you go to the "galleries" section on the left side of this page under "tractor photos" you can see some pics I posted a month or so ago of our haying equipment in action. Very few people in these parts ever used small bales(locally known as "idiot blocks") unless they put up a very few of them to put in the haymow of their barns, etc., since most people put up several hundred tons of hay each summer. The stacks we made averaged around 6 tons each. Before the mid 70's we fed them from haysleds which were generally built with a large tilting platform on top of two low-slung I beams between two semi-truck axles. Then the hay was fed either by hand with drag forks, by a grapple fork on a loader, or by a hydraulic hydra-fork which was similar to a backhoe mounted on the sled but had a grapple on the end to grab the loose hay. Later on we used large chain-type stackmovers with hydra-forks. "Topping off" a stack of hay was pretty much an art form. If the person doing the stacking could get the proper crown on top of the stack it would shed water pretty good. I remember as a kid driving down the road and comparing all the neighbors stacks to our own.

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Ron in Nebr

01-12-2005 22:10:57




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 Re: Hay Stacking Question for Allen??? in reply to Ron in Nebr, 01-12-2005 21:53:57  
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Here's a pic of our stacker with the sweep pushing a load of hay onto it. The top portion of the "tower" with the hydra-fork on it was the same thing we used to feed with. The top portion, that the guy's sitting in, would unbolt. We had a cable that ran through a pulley chained to a high tree limb. We'd hook one end of the cable to the hydrafork and one end to a pickup and lift the whole works off. Then we'd lower it down onto the front "gooseneck" part of the haysled and bolt it on. We also took the lower part of the tower off the tractor and left it sit by the tree over the winter. Then we'd put the "cab" on the 656 and use it to pull the haysled. The "cab" for the tractor and the "cab" that the hydrafork is on were both made by my dad and consisted of angle iron frames and red-painted plywood bolted to the angle iron. There was a glass windshield that bolted in the front of the tractor cab and the rear of the hydrafork cab. The rest of the windows were a thick clear plastic. In the spring, we'd reverse the whole process and take the cabs apart and put the stacker tower back on the 656. Later on we bought an 886, but grandad didn't want to spend the money on a factory cab for it either, so we got one with just the rollover protective structure on it and dad built a plywood cab around that too. :)

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Cmore

01-13-2005 08:44:21




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 Re: Hay Stacking Question for Allen??? in reply to Ron in Nebr, 01-12-2005 22:10:57  
Ron, looks like a lot of equipment to stack hay and my only other question is where did you find a "tree" in Western Nebraska?? Never seen one there...Cmore



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Aces

01-12-2005 16:57:35




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 Re: Hay Stacking Question for Allen??? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 09:56:32  
Allen In this part of the country every one had what was known as a Booster buck. They were made in Dunlop IA which is just east of me on hyway 30. It was a cable operated wood frame thing. I put up a lot of hay with one of those, bad part of that I was in the stack. On a F20 with the high rear axel a good size stack could be made. The F20 did all our hay with the mower on it to mow then stack. I made one of these for my Ertl F20.

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Ron Sorden

01-12-2005 12:36:58




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 Re: Hay Stacking Question for Allen??? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 09:56:32  
When I was a kid I worked for Pawnee Springs Ranch out of North Platte, NE. When we hayed we had 3-5 sweeps that would push the windrowed hay up close to the stacker cage. (Allen it was about 16X16) and then one person drove what we called a "Drubie" (droobie) which looked like a sweep but had hydraulics to raise the rake head up to put the hay into the cage. We could do a lot of stacks in a day with that kind of operation. Later the stacks were moved onto trailers and placed close to where the feeders were.

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old

01-12-2005 11:10:48




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 Re: Hay Stacking Question for Allen??? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 09:56:32  
What Allen you didn't have a stacker trailor? When I live up in NB I worked on a farm in the summer where the guy had this stacker cage on wheels, he would fill it as full as he could and leave it for a few days then open the end up and pull the stacker cage away and start over again. I haven't seen one in years 30 plus that is. But now I live in Missouri so I know I'll probably never see one again, at least not in person

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Allan in NE

01-12-2005 12:24:38




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 Re: Hay Stacking Question for Allen??? in reply to old, 01-12-2005 11:10:48  
Yep,

There were a few of those around here; I still see 'em down in the sandhills from time to time.

The trouble with the cages was, you couldn't build a very big stack. We always built the stacks 6 sweeploads long and 2 wide. Those little cages were what? 16x16 feet?

But, I guess they did work well for the guy who was working all by himself, tho.

Allan



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Allan in NE

01-12-2005 10:27:34




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 Re: Hay Stacking Question for Allen??? in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 09:56:32  
Hi Cmore,

Yepper. Just mowed and raked or later on, used a swather with a crimper, just as in any hay field. When the hay was ready, we'd just run down the windrow with either the sweep or a buck bunching up the hay and then hauling it to the stack.

We raised alfalfa for the dairy cows, so that would translate into 90 to 95 lb small bales. Just too darned much work, if a guy is putting up a lot of hay.

We used a grapple and fork on the loader and either fed the hay loose or usually we liked to grind it because it was so darned much more efficient.

Hay will spoil here too if it isn't put up right. The stacks need to be packed pretty darned tight and have a good rounded "roof" or "lid" built onto 'em.

That's why those mechanical Haybusters never caught on; they would leave a depression or "hole" in the center of the stack and the stuff would set there and rot.

It was a heck of a lot of work but sure beat the daylites outta balin' hay; well, until those ND850 series balers came along. Thought we had gone to heaven when that happened! :>)

Allan

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Cmore

01-13-2005 06:57:26




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 Re: Hay Stacking Question for Allen??? in reply to Allan in NE, 01-12-2005 10:27:34  
Still looks like more work and more equipment required that just square bailing it. But, takes lots of young boys to put 3,000 small, square bales in the barn in one day...which we did on several occassions. 1,500 to 2,000 a day was more like it on average. thanks for the history less, and we also now use large round balers.... Cmore



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Allan in NE

01-12-2005 10:41:32




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 Re: Hay Stacking Question for Allen??? in reply to Allan in NE, 01-12-2005 10:27:34  
In later years, we ran all of our hay through a grinder, something like this little guy.

Made it easy to feed at the bunk with a feed wagon and also put a stop to the waste.

Allan

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